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Shiba agressive behaviour
  • TaaarsTaaars
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    Post edited by sunyata at 2013-06-06 15:40:19
  • This is called resource guarding. A good book on this is "Mine!" by Jean Donaldson.

    My sister's dog has exactly the same behavior. She has implemented several things to virtually eliminate this:
    - NO rawhides, greenies or anything he can;t eat quickly. duration does seem to be a problem. Her dog becomes very stressed when he has something that valuable for that long, and she says he appears relieved when she removes anything he accidentally comes in contact with that could be guarded (like an old bone or something in a yard or in the park)
    - She has desensitized him - taught him that when she comes near when he has anything, it is only to drop him a piece of cheese, nothing more. She needed to be able to take things from him, such as dead birds etc. Do this when he has anything valuable, dinner, etc. TRADE - always offer him something better, Here have this cheese, over here, I'll get that rotten bone (whatever) out of your way.
    - Chewing is a team sport. She will hold a chewy (not rawhide though) and he can chew it while she holds it. she does not relinquish the thing to him.
    - She can now give him stuffed Kongs, but she never gives him rawhides even today. She knows it causes him too much stress to even be in possession of them.
    - Cody will sometimes still guard things in a new environment, such as at my house- he has snapped at my dogs going near the big box containing his food, and he has occaisionally defended tasty spots on the floor where something spilled in the past.
    - Prevent whenever possible, and teach what you can over time. It is not the end of the world to not be able to give rawhides (you may need another tooth cleaning method though) and in fact Noche may feel relieved to not have to worry about it anymore.:)
  • Great advise Chrystal!
  • ljowen123ljowen123
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  • TaaarsTaaars
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    Thanks for the help, its just Luna and sol never been this way towards anyone, so noches behavior was surprising. We will keep long lasting chews away. And you are right, he did seem very uneasy while eating the chews, he tore them up as if someone was going to take it away, and after he was done he just guarded the area he ate at and remained "upset".(but now that you mention it, stress is probably what he was experiencing )
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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  • AntoinetteAntoinette
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    Quake has started to resource guard since his neuter. It involves treats that he cannot eat in one bite. for about a month I had been giving him a treat that takes maybe two bites to eat every morning right before I leave for work so he associates my leaving with something positive. He does not show separation anxiety but I just wanted him to have a treat right before I walk out the door. He eats the treat and then guards the area around where he ate the treat which is in the entryway. For the first time, yesterday he barked at me and nipped at my ankles right before I walked out the door. I ignored the behavior and just told him goodbye and left. This morning I had left the bedroom door open and he took the treat in there to eat and then came back out to bark at me at the door before I left. This is really annoying. I will read the book "Mine" that was suggested to me previously. I do not want his resource guarding to escalate. I am getting to the point of just limiting his treats to ones I hand feed him and he can eat in one bite. He is very good about letting me touch him while he is eating his kibble and I hand feed him treats without a problem.
  • AntoinetteAntoinette
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    I wanted to add that I now understand that the behavior Quake is showing is not aggressive behavior but is fear based. I posted on this thread because it sounded like the original poster's dog Noche was resource guarding with treats that took more than a bite to eat just as Quake is doing and he was guarding the area around where he ate the treat even after having finished eating the treat. Also, I wanted to add that there are no other pets or humans in our household. It is only Quake and me.
  • Kira_KiraKira_Kira
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  • AntoinetteAntoinette
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    @madisonmonster-Quake tried to guard his very large food bin one time and I told him "Leave it" and I walked away and did not feel him at thaat time. I waited around ten minutes and when we were in another room told him "Mom's going to feed you and told him to sit and stay when we got to the door of the kitchen and gave him a treat. I went to the food bin while telling him in a cheery and calm voice "Mom's going to feed the adorable Quakey boy". I had to do all of the above two more times and now all is fine and he doesn't guard his food bin.
  • AntoinetteAntoinette
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    @madisonmonster-Quake's resource guarding has not escalated however, I do avoid giving him treats that he cannot finish off in one bite. Also, when he has tried to guard his toys because I'm walking into the room I tell him "Argh Argh" amd then I walk away and ignore him for about five minutes. I think maybe seeing a behaviorist might be the thing for you to do with Romeo.
  • sunyatasunyata
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    Post edited by sunyata at 2014-08-05 13:52:29
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  • omgtainomgtain
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  • omgtainomgtain
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  • We love in Ft. Myers Fl. Yes we tell him NO and redirect him.
  • I have a leash on him at all times.
  • Hi all, I'm not really sure where to put my issue, since it is the first that it has happened but this thread seemed to be right.

    Hiro has not shown any resource gaurding issues. He eats fine, he doesn't growl or bark if I get near. It doesn't matter if it's a small, quick to eat treat or something that takes time to work on. Today I gave him a treat and my 2 cats their treats as well. I do this often and never had any issues. One cat gets a treat up high because he really dislikes Hiro still. The other gets a treat wherever he is because he tolerates Hiro.

    I gave Hiro his treat first. Then my cat up on the counter and lastly my cat on the floor about 6 feet from Hiro. Hiro had by then finished his treat and decided that the cat on the floor's treat was his and aggressively ran toward him and started biting him and growling to get him away. It happened very fast and I tried to grab him away but my cat just ran away and Hiro vacuumed up the treats. It was a very scary moment because Hiro has never shown these behaviors before.Other than not liking strange dogs at the dog park and showing his teeth a bit, he has never aggressively bit another dog or cat. He is almost 5 months old now.

    Hiro is my first dog, and he has been wonderful and fairly easy to train and handle. This really worries me because I was planning to get another dog in a year or 2 but I want to curve this behavior now before I continue to consider another dog.
  • NikkitineNikkitine
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  • @Nikkitine he's in puppy classes now and really loves it but he has shown his teeth once when a Great Dane puppy kept walking over him. I'll probably have to talk to the instructor next class.

    But I did try giving the cats their treats up high first like you said. Hiro barked at themail but it didn't sound or look aggressive like earlier today. It was more like a "Hey, those are mine!" kind of barking. I gave him his treat only after he stopped barking and sat nicely. So fingers crossed, we'll curve this behavior!
  • Kira_KiraKira_Kira
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  • JuniJuni
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    I wouldn't worry about showing his teeth at the Great Dane, sounds healthy to me that he doesn't want to get hurt by a big clumsy pup. I think he'll snap only if the other pup won't listen to him.
    And you can help him too and remove him from the other puppy if he is not comfortable with the situation. Just make sure you just don't grab him since he will be a bit aggravated and might turn around and snap at whatever is touching him. Call out his name or clap your hands or something instead to get his attention and then redirect.

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