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Second dog advice
  • britkotsubritkotsu
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    I have been wanting a second dog for a long time! My husband is up for a big promotion. He will know by next week. He told me last night that if he gets it, which he should, I can finally get our next family member. Advice on breeds would be appriciated. As much as I would love to adopt an adult dog I think we will go with a puppy from a reputable breeder. I am just really stuck on a breed. Keep in mind I have my shiba girl, 2 cats, and a 4 year old human child. I want a dog 60lbs to 100lbs or so. I am home alone all day with my son and we walk every day. My shiba is a person magnet and no one would be afraid of her. I would like a breed that people would think twice about before approaching us or our home. I was considering a Doberman. They are gorgeous and so trainable. I have only met one though. Anyone else owned one? Any other breed suggestions? I will continue doing my research.

    Just to add on we were also looking at German Shepherds.

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    Post edited by sunyata at 2013-03-01 09:09:00
  • shibahiroshibahiro
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  • hellocarohellocaro
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    Why not keep it in the nihon ken family and go with an akita ;)
  • TrishTrish
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  • BootzBootz
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    I would vote for Rottweiler or German Shepard!

    If you want a dog that will deter people from your house, you just need one that barks when they hear strangers to be honest lol. Jackie (a tiny little shihtzu mix) scares a lot of people off because she's loud. Its like a car alarm. If somebody wants to steal your car and the alarm went off, LOTS of people would be looking, and the car will be safe. I think German shepard is a good one since they are VERY protective of their home and are very verbal.

    Rottweilers will definitely scare people off just by looks ;) But I don't have any personal experience with them.

    Good luck!
  • I agree with an Akita or Rottie, I don't like Dobies much. I would NOT recommend a German Shepard, I love them to death but they are very much a working dog and basic walking wouldn't be enough for him and he may end up "Shepherding" your 4yr old =/
  • GemmaGemma
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    I love dobes! We have 3 that come into my boarding kennels and they are all treasures! :x although active and energetic they do generally seem to be alot more placid and chilled than GSD's :) And although protective, they are less suspicious than a breed like a GSD, not to mention the lack of grooming you'd have to do ;) If you want a dobe, then go for it :) they tend to be pretty dog tolerable aswell (obviously this is also very dependent on socializing) Just do more research and try to meet more of the breed :)

    This being said, my favorite breed after a shiba is a GSD and I very much intend on getting a straight backed male to join the family when the time is right :)
  • BootzBootz
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    @KitsuneSakakino I think a lot of people are worried about that in herding breeds. But with the right training, they can be taught it is not an acceptable behavior :)
  • GemmaGemma
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    @bootz when they finally started making the German Shepherd a breed of it's own, by attempting to create purebred lines, they weren't really used for herding anymore, and modern dogs don't really possess typical "herding behaviors" that you might see in breeds like border collies :) But that being said they are still definitely a working breed, so I understand where @KitsuneSakakino is coming from, but herding behaviors aren't really a prevalent trait in the breed, it's the over guarding and heavy stranger socialization that needs to be worked on most with 'sheps :)
  • BootzBootz
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    @Gemma, my comment was in response to what KitsuneSakakino said about the GS herding the kid. I hear that quite often as the reason why people DONT want shelties, collies, Australian shepherds and such.
  • Corgis too! I love GS Dogs myself, but as a mom of a 4 yr old myself I know it would be way to stressful. It makes me sad to see so many German Shepherd and Huskies up for adoption because families didn't realize how much work they were going to be And how destructive they can be when not kept busy enough =(
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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  • GemmaGemma
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    @KitsuneSakakino omg yes corgis! When I was first looking into getting a dog it was between a corgi and a shiba! Love corgis :D I know, it's sad when people get high energy dogs without doing the proper research into just how much work they can be :(
  • britkotsubritkotsu
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    I'm not really worried about training and socialization. I am a certified basic obedience instructor and we have many friends who bring their dogs to play at our home so positive socialization shouldn't be an issue. I guess with my shiba I just knew what I wanted. It is strange to not know what I want. My husband would prefer a dog that is very trainable and can be trusted off leash but since I am the one doing most of the care and training he has left the decision up to me. His only requirement is that it be a larger dog that will protect us if necessary, or at least deter people. If it was just for me I would go with an Akita honestly. I'm just not sure if that would be the most prudent choice for the entire family.
    I really need to meet some more Akitas, GSDs, and Dobbies to get a better feel. While working at a kennel for 7 years I only met 2 Akitas. One I adored the other drove me crazy. The same with dobermans. I met a lot of GSDs. A few were wonderful but most had serious issues, anxiety, dog aggression etc. I would like to see some well bred, well raised dogs to see what each should be.
  • Koji's momKoji's mom
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    Two cents: I grew up with GSD's until I left home and they were WONDERFUL...Yes you would have to find an excellent breeder and maybe it is worse than when my mother raised them.

    My dogs pulled me on roller skates, I dressed them up, slept with them they put up with anything from me and my friends, BUT they would "hold" people they didn't know or trust..

    Mom came home couple of times with me happily playing on the floor and Gretchen had the poor gas man or someone pinned against the wall (just staring and making it clear don't do anything funny - never attacked because wasn't necessary)

    I looove them and have known many well bred GSDs I've never known them to herd...Yes we walked them and my mom always went through long puppy hood of training, but I don't remember them being overly "needing to work"...again, breeding would be so important...I have such fond memories of growing up with them -

    My mother decided on them after my parents divorced and her and I were living alone in a place with crime and we never had any problems :)

    EDIT PS>> as others have said Bully's are wonderful too...and have had friends with Rotties and they all say they are silly clowns at home with the family....
    Post edited by Koji's mom at 2013-03-02 13:29:14
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