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Bicycle with a Shiba Anyone?
  • Was wondering if anyone has tried using the dog attachments that are made for bikes to take their shiba biking with them. I don't go on long rides, but it would be nice to be able to take Fuji along. Anyone have any experience here? Thanks.
  • Fawkes702Fawkes702
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    I didn't use a dog attachment, i just use a regular leash. She is accustomed to walking next to me so it was easy to ride with her. Good luck!
  • lyzklyzk
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    i've also "road worked" several Shibas on a bike...but just holding onto a regular leash. i started by walking them next to the bike...then gradually work up to riding and riding with a bit of speed. The "walky-dog" type attachments keep the dog at a consistent/safe distance from the bike...and you can keep both hands on the bike - unless you tie your dog to your waist - but it can be hazardous! You must be careful that the lead doesn't tangle with the bike/wheels.
    We've just started a new "dog sport" with our pack...dog *scootering*/urban mushing [www.dogscooter.com is one website with info] - altho' i haven't hooked up my Shibas yet ;^) i think i need a team of 4 (i only have 2)...then they will REALLY look like the "miniature huskies" that so many people call them ;^D
  • PupChowPupChow
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    Great thread, I tried biking with Mac before but the fear of him crossing in front of the bike keeps crossing my mind (I trapped the retractable leash on the handle), I had to go slow to make sure he is in the clear and it wasn't a comfortable ride. I may rig up an elbow attachment with PVC pipes and see if that works better.
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  • JuniJuni
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    For some reason Juni doesn't like to jog with me much (only if she knows there´s rabbits or deer around, when she probably thinks we're out hunting together) but she enjoys running with the bike. If I'm lazy and only want to get somewhere a bit faster a short distance I let her run ahead of me on her leash but I make sure I have my hands on the brakes and watch her very carefully. Otherwise I use one of those side attachments. I still watch her carefully so I can see that we're at a comfortable pace for her. I've read that it's best to keep the dog at a "trotting" pace only, which means we're not moving very fast.

    I also go everywhere by bike so if we're not walking or she's running with the bike, she sits in one of these
    http://www.amazon.com/Basil-Animal-Basket-Bicycles-Natural/dp/B000YO5RQ4/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

    @djinn we're planning a combined kayaking-bicycling with dog-trip this summer so I will enjoy reading your travelblog for inspiration!
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    Post edited by Momoo at 2012-04-10 07:57:28
  • JuniJuni
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    She is a bit young to be running with a bicycle, I would wait another six months or so.
    About the nipping, it seems she gets over excited.
  • JuniJuni
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    There are special dog baskets that have attachments so you can hook up the leash and secure the pup to the basket, or make one yourself. In case you need to brake suddenly or worse you don't want your pup go flying...
    Just go slow if the pup is scared, putting her inside and praise and remove her. If that seems ok put her in and walk with the bike a bit slow. Baby steps basically until you can actually ride the bike. I make sure Juni sits down too because otherwise both she and I easily gets off balance (nowadays she sits in a basket behind me). I just stop and press down her bottom and then start again and keep repeating if neccessary. She gets a treat normally when she is hooked up. But she quickly learned to love bicycling, we go fast and she doesn't need to do anything by herself, suits the little lazy primadonna perfectly.
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  • JuniJuni
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    @poltergeist the basket I used in the front is from Trixie and the one I have now is the large wicker basket from Basil. I can fit a bag in too and a blanket if needed and Juni actually sits better if it's a tighter space. The brands are German and Dutch so I'm not sure if you can find them in your country.
    Post edited by Juni at 2014-02-16 14:26:45
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  • tysaaantysaaan
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    I went biking with Jibo once and he seemed to do fine. He is only 5 months and I did not force him to run anymore than he wanted to, and we went fairly slow. He enjoyed it, however after that night he didn't seem to like running with my bike. He would stop mid-run, cross over my bike, or get distracted by something else. I am planning on getting the attachment for the bike so he can ride by the bikes side. Also, that crate is awesome!! I will have to try and make that as well some time.
  • aferraroaferraro
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  • Glad to see this. I want to use my bike this spring but I feel awful leaving Otto home on a sunny day. He will have to come with us.

    He hates the car rides because it's bumpy, I wonder if he will be ok on a bike. I was thinking about the trailer because, knowing him, I think he will be scared of the basket.
  • BasBas
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    Our Yuka likes to run besides the bike, almost daily, sometimes twice a day.
    We do like 3 to 6 km (2 to 4 miles) a day.

    It is an extra responsibility: you not only have your own life to watch out for, but also that of the dog, and the others on the roads.

    This is what we do:
    His leach should never be too loose around his neck. He should not be able to pull out. At all. I use two fingers as spacers and strap the leach as tight as I can.
    We watch traffic and roads and dog vigorously, all the time, but keep a relaxed attitude and confident route.
    As soon as we see the dog does not know what way to go: we explain. We never leave the dog in doubt when he looks to us to ask directions, and inform him as soon as we take an uncommon path. He now understands 'left', 'right' and 'straight' like a charm.

    On tarmac (where cars drive by) he is only allowed to walk exactly beside us, on the proper side (away from the cars).
    When we stop (traffic light and such) he has to sit and stay, so he wont wander of.

    It is ok for him to walk ahead, but only if situation allowed it, that is: on dirt tracks or on dedicated biking paths, with no other people in sight. When I see a sideway or another bike or a man with a dog, I tell him to walk beside me, by giving a small thug on his leach. When we passed the man (dog, horse, whatever) he is allowed to roam ahead a little again. When he is tired from running, he is allowed to drop back a couple of meters. When he walks behind me I look with the corner of my eyes at him like two times a second, and drop speed if needed immediately.

    We stay in control of the situation all the time.

    Sometimes he defecates or urinates. You have to read him, and stop in time. This mostly happens at the very beginning.

    When he does not want to go somewhere, because he thinks it is boring, he will sometimes try to pull back, sit on the ground even. We just stay calm and thug his leach to come besides the bike and drive on.

    He has three walking modes, just like a horse.

    The lowest mode we use to get started and loosen up or when really tired.
    The middle mode is the favorite mode, he can run this from pretty slow (and hold this tempo for long times, like 5 to 10 minutes or longer) to pretty fast.
    The really fast mode (like gallop), he can only hold for ten, twenty seconds at a time, when he has lots of energy. He will run as fast as he can. Mostly to impress my girlfriend.

    He likes to jump in the water to cool down. We stop at all water we like. He does a quick pitstop, and on we go again. Total time of bike rides: 40 to 60 minutes, easy.

    We dont ride hard at all most of the time. Just a slow jogging speed I would say. It is not 'just pure speed' we want, it is the experience of going 'fast': together.

    Riding with two bikes and the dog is not a problem at all.

    'but will he not run past the wrong side of roadlights?' Nope. Never. He understands. I think they do it wrong once, then never forget. He even understands zig-zag obstacles, where he would be able to just walk underneath: he doesnt. He zig-zags properly by himself.

    He is very tired after 3 miles+. His condition is not very good yet. We dont push it. He loves it.

    One of the favorite parts of the ride is when he notices we are heading back. He then 'finds' his way back (with some instructions when needed), and runs, as fast as he can: to his house. When he is in, he kills one of his stuffed animals, plays for a while very happy, then chills for hours.

    Running is nice. But home... sweet home.
  • LilikoiLilikoi
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    Hiii guys. Bf and I are finally planning on buying bikes within the next couple of weeks! We used to have some nicer mountain bikes, but they were stolen a few months ago and we really hoped they would find there way back to us. :( but we're planning on getting some more lifestyle / light trail bikes. Who knows, maybe we'll spot ours in the area while riding around and be able to get them back and roundhouse kick the thieves.

    So I'm looking into ways to bring Ozzy along. I had previously ordered a front basket, but he was smaller then and I had to cancel it since our bikes were like literally stolen the next day ha. It also didn't seem that weatherproof or sturdy. I think I would prefer a rack and basket for the rear of the bike... It seems like it wouldn't sacrifice any control (and ultimately safety), and many front baskets I've looked at have low weight limits. Does anyone know of any brands / styles / websites I should check out or recommend any specific products?
  • LilikoiLilikoi
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  • niki82niki82
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    This is so funny I was looking at dog contraptions for bikes last night. I think I am going to get one of those carriages that travel behind the bike.LOL! A bit ostentatious but I think Sora would love it and as long as it has an area to strap her in it will be safe and stop her from jumping out. I am going to make some enquiries later.
    Post edited by niki82 at 2016-05-19 21:51:37
  • LilikoiLilikoi
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    I thought about that too but it seems quite a bit less convenient... I'd like for him to be able to have a place to rest if he eventually becomes comfortable with trotting alongside (that thought scares me so far but we'll see), and dragging an empty trailer everywhere wouldn't be that ideal. xD Might've found a local store than can order basil baskets of I'm lucky, will check it out tomorrow. :)
    Post edited by Lilikoi at 2016-05-19 22:28:03
  • niki82niki82
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    @lilikoi yeah I know the carriage has both pros and cons. I am just worried about using a basket up high like that Incase Sora tries to jump out if she sees something she is interested in or I have an accident. I know people and their pups get around like that a lot but I still worry. Is there a basket with a safety strap or hooks to make your own? I am really keen to get Sora and I adventuring but she is too young to run beside the bike and I haven't decided either if I will train her to do that. (yeah I'm a worry wart too!) I just like the idea of cycling to our next adventure place and parking the bike somewhere safe while we go on one of our walks.
    Post edited by niki82 at 2016-05-19 23:26:13
  • LilikoiLilikoi
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    @niki82 - very true, I'm also worried about him wanting to chase after something or if I crashed or hit a bump. I've seen lots of baskets with safety straps, but hardly any that are for dogs more than like 15 lbs (Ozzy is currently 18 lbs). Some come with like mesh / wire covers to hook or zip on top to keep them from jumping out. I'd love to take Ozzy on jogs or beside the bike when he's older. While he's too young for it, I'll probably let him get used it by walking beside the bike with him sometimes. Being able to take Ozzy with me when biking would be so convenient cus I don't have my own car, so when my bf is working if I want to go anywhere I just walk. xD we'd much rather be doing stuff outside like riding bikes to our destination than riding in the car anyway.

    Ive also tried to look into like front / back packs that I could strap to myself and put Ozzy in. But not sure if there are any ideal for full grown shibes...
  • JuniJuni
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    Trixie also do dog baskets but the fittings are not very good. We have attached a strap from a bag to the basket bottom with a lock so I can hook on her harness. Earlier I used a car belt attachment (the ones you can get for dogs) and it also worked.
    I can take a picture and show it.

    Juni doesn't attempt to jump out at all but if I suddenly need to brake she may lose her balance. It actually happened a week ago because she was standing up in the basket, super excited about some rabbits we saw, and I had to brake and swerve for a pedestrian.
    She lost her balance and fell out which left her hanging in her harness at the side of my bike. A fellow bicyclist was kind enough to stop and help me scoop her up because it was a bit complicated on my own. Juni wasn't very shaken by the incident.

    In my opinion I would skip a trailer, I think it will be too heavy for just shorter trips and front basket because you lose steering capacity and balance. I also find that Juni is more snug if it is a bit tight with room so you don't need a huge basket in the back either. Plus again it throws you off balance a bit with a heavy object too far back.

    Something similar to these ones could be used I think (maybe one size up) with some adjustments http://m.bikester.se/476826.html
  • niki82niki82
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    @juni that would've been so scary! Glad you're both OK and thanks for posting the link. It's such a dilemma trying to figure out the best bike contraption to use for Sora. I am in a similar position as you @lilikoi in regards to not having a car to use at present only it will be happening for the next year. I have looked into public transport but if I go in a taxi with her she has to be in a dog carrier but where will I put it while we're out and about? I am ringing to speak to the northern rivers buslines boss on Monday but the employee I spoke to said I will likely have to use the carrier. It's just so frustrating because I miss taking Sora out to different places! I really want to make travelling on a bike with Sora to be fun and safe not turn into a big drama.
    Post edited by niki82 at 2016-05-20 02:09:13
  • LilikoiLilikoi
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    Thank you @Juni! I looked a bit I to trixie yesterday but the stuff I found about it was mostly in Europe, I couldn't find a place to order it in the states. Had that issue with Basil too but there seemed to be more potential for it. Going to go by local store later today, their site says they can order any Basil basket so hopefully that includes the pet basket. I've looked at a couple of like mesh / wire baskets that could probably get the job done, but I wasn't sure if I could depend on it as much since it wasn't made specifically for pets. But if the weight limit is good enough it would probably be better than some options, and I've considered trying to make my own or adjust one to my own liking.
  • JuniJuni
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    I think as long as you put something for Ozzy to sit on, so he won't risk getting claws stuck in the mesh, he'll be fine.

    With my current Trixie basket there was an attached wire to put on top, like the Basil ones, but don't bother with trying to order something like it because I think they may all be too low to fit a shiba anyways. The Trixie one certainly was.
  • LilikoiLilikoi
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    Ok thanks. The store I went to is able to order the basil one but can't do it until the manager is there on Monday. I'll probably go for that one if it isn't beyond the budget.
  • JuniJuni
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    Great! Basil is a lot better quality. I had the bigger basket, but it was almost too big actually. It depends on Ozzy's size too of course and what you want. There was room enough to put some other small items in it but it also stuck out a bit too far back which affects the balance of the bike slightly.
  • LilikoiLilikoi
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    Hm I was planning on getting the large size, I figured that's what would fit him best. Do you think I should stick with that or maybe go for medium? Ozzy is currently 18 pounds (8 kg) and probably won't get bigger than 25 ish pounds or around 11.5 kg max.

    Here's the dimensions of the different basil sizes, from their website.
    The dimensions of our PASJA pet bicycle baskets are:

    smallest size = floor dimensions (L) 40 cm x (W) 32 cm highest front side 14 cm highest rear side 29 cm
    medium size = floor dimensions (L) 45 cm x (W) 37 cm highest front side 23 cm highest rear side 31 cm
    biggest size = floor dimensions (L) 50 cm x (W) 42 cm highest front side 32 cm highest rear side 33 cm
    Post edited by Lilikoi at 2016-05-21 03:56:38
  • JuniJuni
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    The one I have now is roughly: floor dimensions 43 x 23 cm and height in front 18 cm and at the back 30 cm. Juni is pretty tall for a female and weighs around 8 kg. I'll upload some pics for you later today.
  • LilikoiLilikoi
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    Awesome! Ok. I guess Ozzy will be a bit bigger than her so maybe I need the bigger size...
  • JuniJuni
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    Post edited by Juni at 2016-05-21 14:40:59
  • LilikoiLilikoi
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    Oh thanks! She looks quite comfy and dedicated hehe. Is that like a bungee cord around the rack that holds the basket?? I have a seat belt accessory that I think would work well to hook to him.

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