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shiba teeth
  • ShiroShiro
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    i bought a shiba inu (shiro) and i think his teeth are not normal can any one post a pic of how shiba teeth should look like
    Post edited by Calia at 2012-05-15 08:35:36
  • ShiroShiro
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    ps i dont know how to post pics
  • KitsuKitsu
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    image

  • KitsuKitsu
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    To post pics , you just do <*img src="IMAGE URL HERE"*> (without the '*'s)

    Please post an introduction about yourself then one of the moderators will grant you full member status and unlock the ability to post in all forum topics, instead of just introduction.

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    Post edited by Kitsu at 2012-05-15 04:06:20
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Welcome to the forum. We ask that new members make an introduction telling us more about themselves so we know who we are talking to. This thread will help you:

    http://www.shibainuforum.org/forum/discussion/9612/new-to-the-forum-what-to-do-and-forum-guidelines.#Item_1
    "Common sense isn't so common"
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  • ShiroShiro
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    thanks kitsu for the pic ypur shiba has very nice teeth, by any chance do you have one with the mouth closed, because i think the problem is when shiro has his mout shut
  • KitsuKitsu
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    Oh, that's not my Shiba :P
  • ShiroShiro
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    lol, sorry i tought it was your shiba
  • KitsuKitsu
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    Remember to put the < before img and > at the end. also, put the image url in quotations.

  • ShiroShiro
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    image
    Post edited by Calia at 2012-05-15 08:37:42
  • KitsuKitsu
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    Also, use the direct link on photo bucket. Or just copy and paste the Html code and forget about what i just said.

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    is what it'll look like
  • KitsuKitsu
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    I'm assuming image is the image of your Shiba's teeth.
  • ShiroShiro
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    yes thats it
    what do you think?
  • KitsuKitsu
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    How old is he? Is he missing teeth? If you're worried, i'd ask a vet. I'm sure other people on the forum are more knowledgable about dog teeth, sorry I'm not that much of a help!
  • ShiroShiro
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    the lower jaw isnt in line with the upper!!!!!! i asked a vet and he told me its ok but i find it strange
  • KitsuKitsu
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    Maybe it's okay, I'm not sure. If you have any worries or other forums members tell you that it isn't normal then you might want to consult another vet?
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    Post edited by Kitsu at 2012-05-15 05:11:23
  • JuniJuni
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    Is it the puppy teeth? As in, not the adult ones? in that case maybe the adult ones will be more in line as they will fill up more space and they also get a few more teeth as adults.
  • KitsuKitsu
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    I asked that, and thought that as well :) He said they are puppy teeth.
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    He has an overbite (edited). The upper puppy tooth will come out, but watch the new adult canines coming it. Make sure to look in his mouth every day and make sure the bottom canines are not coming in narrow and peircing the roof of his mouth, and that the upper canines are not getting pushed out to far. He may need braces.
    "Common sense isn't so common"
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    Post edited by lindsayt at 2012-05-15 10:55:10
  • notoriousscratnotoriousscrat
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    I wouldn't worry too much about puppy teeth being like that, although I'd definitely say that looks abnormal. Talk to your vet about this. There may be something out there to make them come in more normally or something.

    Edit: Something like braces, which lindsayt mentioned. :P
    Post edited by notoriousscrat at 2012-05-15 07:42:13
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/dvm/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=704902&pageID=5

    The top photo (#5) is what it would look like with adult teeth
    "Common sense isn't so common"
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  • LuckeeSevenLuckeeSeven
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    Wow, doggy dentistry is awesome, its actually really similar (classification wise) with human oral anatomy. Do they actually do braces with dogs @lindsayt?

    Just a little disclosure- I work with human teeth, not dog teeth ;)
    Looking at the baby teeth photo you posted @shiro, it appears to be a class 2, division 1 occlusion with an overjet or a deep bite. Similar to an overbite in humans, the top teeth come over the bottom teeth with a horizontal overlap. If dentistry follows the same patterns and ideas, the adult teeth that your dog gets will be 1 1/2 to 2 times the size of the puppy teeth. The jaw will continue to grow as your puppy does.

    When the puppy teeth get loose, make sure you work with your puppy to get them out with a little bit more aggressive tug of war, raw meaty bones, etc. If you leave a puppy tooth loose as the adult tooth is trying to push through, that might cause more alignment issues. I honestly do not know what they could do to help the bite before the adult teeth come in, except maybe some type of bottom jaw lengthening surgery. Monitor the growth of teeth (again, if dogs follow the human pattern of tooth loss, the top front teeth will go first, then bottom front teeth, and usually the canines are the last to come in) and express your concerns with your vet.

    Good luck!
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  • StaticNfuzzStaticNfuzz
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    Maybe this pup has a slight over bite?

    I thought "underbite" was different, where the bottom jaw protrudes out beyond top front teeth (front teeth behind lower bottom) like one would see on brachycephalic breeds, english bull dog, boxer, possibly boston or even chins and peaks. Apparently they can do braces if the problem is severe enough http://www.dentalvet.com/patients/orthodontics/pet_orthodontics.htm

    Snf

    Post edited by StaticNfuzz at 2012-05-15 10:12:11
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Good grief, brain fart, yes SNF, you are correct it is an overbite
    "Common sense isn't so common"
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  • rubyruby
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    If you are concerned try to get a referral to an actual doggy dentist. Simon has one. He had a tooth that was damaged and our regular vet pulled it but was suffering from pain after. They said he was just being "dramatic". They did not have the proper x-ray equipment a dentist does and could not see fragments left behind afterwards. The dentist went in again and fixed it. Then they also gave him a crown on another tooth so he could salvage the tooth. It has held up well for 8+ yrs . Most of the patients they saw did have braces.
  • ShiroShiro
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    thanks everyone for the tips, i fixed an app for next sat to the vet
  • AnnaAnna
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    Hammond has an overbite and it's not caused him any problems. His mouth also looked a bit similar to Shiro's when he was just getting ready to start teething. He had an adult-sized mouth, but tiny puppy teeth, and it looked absolutely ridiculous, haha. So much empty space between his teeth.

    His bite and teeth are all fine now. The only issue he still has (aside from the slight overbite) is that one of his baby canines refused to loosen or fall out before the adult one started growing in, so it kind of grew forwards. So instead of sticking down like a canine should, it tilts forwards and rests next to his front teeth. The vet said it's not a big deal and it doesn't seem to cause him any pain or discomfort.
  • kumaDUDEkumaDUDE
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    Ok, I didn't want to start a new thread, so I figured I would pos here.
    Kuma has been losing his puppy teeth for the past month now, however his top puppy canines are not coming out. His adult ones are already coming out, and his puppy ones are just infront of his adult ones. I was curious if that's the norm for canines, but I do have a vet appt scheduled already for next week.
  • SayaSaya
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    Is it like this?
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    Saya had this only two teeth to give me trouble to get out.

    I continued to give her frozen wash cloth to chew on, chew toys, and plenty of tug.

    I had fleece tug and those string tugs and also tug with a fleece blanket luckily a combo of it they both came out.

    If they didn't I'd have the vet get them when she got spayed..
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  • kumaDUDEkumaDUDE
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    Yeah they look kinda like that, I'll see if it comes loose before the vet gets to them. Thanks Saya
    Post edited by kumaDUDE at 2012-09-10 13:04:26
  • WerwolfWerwolf
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    Shiro said:

    i bought a shiba inu (shiro) and i think his teeth are not normal can any one post a pic of how shiba teeth should look like



    7 months:
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  • amtiamti
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    Are the bottom canines hitting the top gum? Hard to tell from your photo, but it looks like there is a slight indentation at the tip of the bottom canines, where it appears to be touching the top gum.

    Oops, just realized how old this post is.
    Post edited by amti at 2013-04-08 17:25:57
  • DianaBostonDianaBoston
    Posts: 254
    Hi all,

    Just a curious question about Shiba teeth in general -- or more specifically, Dakota's teeth. I've noticed (and finally got a little snapshot of) that some of her upper teeth are not in line with her canines and wonder if this is "normal". Our vet has always said her teeth look fine, but as you see in the picture where the arrows are pointing, two of her upper teeth (just in back of her canines) are more on the roof of her mouth then coming out the sides of her jaws. Also the most far back molar is also more protruding from the roof of her mouth rather than being "in line" with her other teeth. Does this look odd to anyone?

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    Post edited by DianaBoston at 2013-07-17 11:04:36
  • just sharing gingers teeth. theyve been coming in nicely it seems.
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    theyve pretty much all come in since then aside from her back teeth
  • shibamistressshibamistress
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    @DianaBoston....yes, that does look odd. I'd have the vet look at it again, because if they come in too misaligned, it can cause problems. My mom has a mixed breed dog that has such bad alighnment he's going to have a number of teeth pulled. :(
  • DianaBostonDianaBoston
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    Oh, @shibamistress they are already in... Those are her adult teeth. I will ask the vet to check again at her appt. next month.. She did say they look fine, but who knows....
  • cstrashcstrash
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    On our first visit to the vet, he said, "...and don't worry about that crooked tooth. It looks like its far enough off that it won't interfere." We had no idea anything was different about Marty's teeth and I'm a (people) dentist!!
    The vet was right though, Marty does just fine with his snaggle tooth. I just have to do my best to clean between those two so he doesn't impact too much food and hair. He doesn't really like having his teeth cleaned.
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  • jennjenn
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    Rigby's bite is pretty bad, he has an undershot jaw and is the reason we have him and not his breeder. He's seen his regulat vet and a veterinary dental specialist, and both have said while its a severe malocclusion, treatment isn't necessary because it would be too painful (involving breaking the jaw) and only would be fixing a cosmetic issue.

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  • Kira_KiraKira_Kira
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    I've been inspecting Kira's teeth, she is almost 5 months old and I noticed that her canine puppy teeth are slightly discolored and brownish. If I'm not mistaken, doesn't that imply that the puppy tooth is dying and the adult canines are growing in? If anyone knows for sure, let me know. I'm paranoid now
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  • RAM25RAM25
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    Snoz has yellow/brown plaque on her adult canine teeth, we brush them quite regularly but I worry about it too. I think she did have it on her puppy teeth before they fell out but I can't quite remember.
    Snoz is over a year old and still has one little puppy tooth! We think it's cute, hopefully it wont cause her any problems.
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Ask your Vet to yank it, it should come out easily. Debris often builds up underneath and causes bad breath. I bet it doesn't even have a root, which would make it easy to pull.
    "Common sense isn't so common"
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    Post edited by lindsayt at 2013-11-02 13:26:56
  • RAM25RAM25
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    I must admit I have tried to wobble it daily in the hope it may naturally fall out, the little thing will not budge! She has nice breath because we brush her teeth! I will mention it to my vets next time we're there though.
  • Kiba0713Kiba0713
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    So, I noticed something odd with Kiba's teeth today. Hes 4 months, so still his puppy teeth, but it looks like two teeth have come into one space. I'm hoping since they're his puppy teeth it won't be a huge issue, and we're seeing the vet again soon, but I wonder if anyone else has seen this? Sorry they're not the clearest shots, he wouldn't hold still..

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    It looks like there's a tooth in the normal spot where it should be, then another (large) one behind it.
  • Kobe1468Kobe1468
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    Kind of hard to tell, but might be an adult tooth coming in. I dont think it's uncommon for adult teeth to come in before the puppy tooth is lost.

    If you have concerns, consult your vet.
    "Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened."
  • Thee other day I noticed that Ember is missing 2 teeth! I never noticed it before and neither did the vet. I got her at 6 months and it was most likely this way when I got her. I do not think it will affect her much, just kind of crazy. I guess this explains why she is so lousy at tug and eats really slow.

    I can't open her mouth and take a photo at the same time so, she is missing these two pre-molars.
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Missing premolars are a problem in the breed. Let your breeder know. Sometimes they erupt as late as 12-18 months, so check again in a few months.
    "Common sense isn't so common"
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  • Kiba0713Kiba0713
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    Thanks @Kobe1468 we will see the vet this week hopefully. I feel bad because he has been teething hard lately and I hope this isn't causing him extra discomfort. An adult tooth makes sense I think because it's a lot larger than the one in front of it.
  • @lindsayt She was left at animal control at 6 months and I got her through Shiba Inu Rescue of Texas (so no breeder info), but it is nice to know that it is fairly common among shibas. I will keep checking her teeth...she is only 15 months right now.
  • Kiba0713Kiba0713
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    It was definitely an adult tooth coming in. The same thing happened on the other side of his mouth and he lost both of those baby teeth today. He's not a happy camper, very bitey tonight.

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