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Why does he hate his harness?
  • RAM25RAM25
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  • DaghainDaghain
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    @kagurarap Keiko acts like I am killing her with the traditional harness she has now. I'm thinking it could be the fact that she does NOT like me putting it over her head. I think I may try an Easy Walk before the martingale, as I'm pretty sure she could slip that in three seconds flat - her neck and head are approximately the same size. I am also leery about the martingale, as I know my dog is smarter than me and could easily back out of it if I had ten seconds of inattention.
  • DaghainDaghain
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    Oh, and Keiko walks to the elevator like you're taking her to death row. Seriously. Once outside, she's really good. Crazy dog. I guess that's why we love them - they are a constant challenge. :D
  • tatonkatatonka
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  • LemonChickenLemonChicken
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  • jelliesjellies
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    Post edited by jellies at 2013-06-04 21:45:10
  • redcattooredcattoo
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    Have you tried offering one opportunity to go walk and when he refuses leave and go on your own walk returning and ignoring him until you are ready to go again?

    Do this consistently so he learns walks are when you decide.

    Or is there something else going in like he doesn't even like the walk once you are outside? Or is the process mandatory to pee/poo?
  • jelliesjellies
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    Yes, I have vanished for an hour then come back. He is 50% less hyper focussed on keeping his distance - unless he has then plain gone into snooze mode, and then I can reach him easily.

    He is very reluctant to eliminate in our garden - his walks always involve multiple pees and two eliminations but he has ridiculous stamina so it doesn't really matter when the walks are arranged. The only time he demanded a walk at 5am, and no longer cared about the process of getting leashed, was when he had the runs.

    Strangely when the kids leave for school, he is by the door trying to leave with them. At that point, he would be a cinch to deal with. But only for that instant.

    Nothing negative happens on walks, it is all butterflies and happiness. No loud scary cars, no nasty dogs, he never needs to be convinced to walk away from the house. etc.
  • aferraroaferraro
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  • aferraroaferraro
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    Oooh I forgot one thing. There was a time where Emma really hated her harness. It seemed to come out of nowhere.

    When we went for our therapy session, the Vet said perhaps the harness was too loose.

    It may sound strange, but if it is loose enough to allow rubbing it hurts Fluffy. It may seem tight, but you should only be able to get 2 fingers between the harness and the dog.

    I thought I was being nice to Emma by letting the harness be looser, but it was rubbing. As soon as I tightened it up, she was fine again.
  • amtiamti
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    Heheheeee... Looks like we all own the same dog. Harness hating must have been taught in Shiba kindergarten.

    I had some success today. I told Kaji we were going bye-bye to see Taisho and Baba and showed him his car harness/seatbelt. He usually backs away as he did this time, but he stopped on the stairs. I laid the harness down and he didn't run. He's not happy about it but he let me actually put the harness on him and buckle with zero struggle or trying to run away. So there is hope everyone!!! Or maybe he was on his best behavior since it is his one year old birthday today! :D
  • CrystalWolfCrystalWolf
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    Riku likes his harness, he has had that since day 1 when I brought him home. He has his harness on for walks, as well as to go outside to potty. I didnt do introductions either. Just put it on him, left it on for the first few days so it would be easy in the mornings and nights for potty breaks.

    I just acted like its no big deal so maybe thats why, I didnt do anything special so he wouldnt think its anything special.
    Post edited by CrystalWolf at 2013-06-17 10:17:50
  • A little bit of a relief to see it appears to be a common trend in Shiba; Oscar just cannot take to his harness, or his leash, or anything that restrains him. Every time I need to put it on he walks in circles around me and will keep out of arms reach no matter how I try to coax him. Eventually he usually sends up on my lap being put into it, which I feel even worse for because he always looks so sad afterwards. He's fine once we are out the door, but you would think the leash and harness were a ton weight with the way he keeps his head down and his tail drooped until we step outside.

    I have left the harness on for extended periods and as long as he's not on leash it doesn't bother him after a few minutes, but the moment it is off he's back to avoiding it at all costs. Going to try a new type and see if that makes a difference, as the one I bought was quite simple and cheap, but so far no amount of treats and walks have warmed him to his leash or harness :P
  • Kira_KiraKira_Kira
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  • Koda is definitely not a fan of the harness either. And she is such an explorer, walks with only a leash and collar are impossible. So sometimes she will attempt to run away when she sees the harness but if I say "okay fine" and put it down and go sit down, she'll go sit by the door and give in and wear it.
  • micomico
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    Suki used to have a collar but she hated having her lead clipped on for walks so we decided to try a harness. The first was too stiff and she didn't like the chestplate, the second was a palavar to fasten so we were ready to go back to a collar but found a nice soft one that goes over her head, between her front legs and a strap wraps round her torso and clips on the side. Does she like it? Does she hell!

    Tonight's walk consisted of 5 minutes of the human chasing her from the kitchen, through the dining room, down the hall and back to the kitchen with a tasty morsel in one hand and the dreaded harness in the other. Then human decides to let shiba into the back garden so she can don her layers and wellies before chasing shiba round the garden for another 5 minutes. Human re-enters house and removes wellies, shiba pokes head through catflap and notices wellies are not in post-dog walking position so runs to end of path. Human opens door and waves a tasty morsel but shiba just sits and stares. Human removes coat and puts kettle on, shiba pokes head back through catflap but human has still not moved the wellies so shiba returns to her vantage point at end of path. After a 10+ minute standoff shiba decides its time to come in and wear the harness of shame and glares whilst human puts multiple layers back on before setting off for considerably shortened walk because its too late to go across the fields as it'll be dark in 20 mins.

    Someone please remind me why we love these manipulative divas!
  • This is like 3 years late, but was looking on here for the same issues I've been having with my shiba as well. The first 2-3 weeks we got her, she slept, lived and ate with her harness on. (This was so we could tether her during the day while I worked on my computer or take her out if she had an accident.) She never minded the harness. After that, we began taking off her harness whenever she was inside. When it was time to go out, she didn't have issues with us putting the harness on.

    Until recently. We've had her about 4 months now, and by month 3 she begun running around the apartment whenever we held the harness and leash in hand. It usually took us 10 minutes to corner her and put the harness on (yet she never complained while we were putting it on--no whimpering, no whining, no barking--just silent, stoic defeat).

    Like many on here, I couldn't figure out why she doesn't like the harness, because she knows the harness means treats, going outside, going to the park, going for walks, etc.

    Last week I began training her to come when I hold up the harness. Every time she walked towards me while I said "Harness!" and held it up, I'd treat her. Yesterday I finally got her to come right up to me while holding the harness, and she's gotten better at coming when I call out "Harness!" (Which saves time on chasing her, but still requires 3-5 minutes to get her close enough to catch her and put the harness on.) I then also tried to put treats in my hand and stick it halfway through the loop of the harness for her to pop her head through, but if the harness was haflway up her nose, she'd run away again.

    It's progress, but frustrating nonetheless :P
  • LilikoiLilikoi
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    Sounds like progress! Ozzy still doesn’t really like his harness. Some harnesses he will tolerate and just assume a look of defeat and disappointment while it’s being slipped over his head. Others he will run from still.

    I’ve tried a lotttt to work up from him eating treats near the harness to on the harness to through the harness... but as soon as I put the harness on and buckle it, even if I take it off immediately, it’s back to square one and he won’t come near it hahaha. I think if I just keep at it consistently, multiple times per day, he might be able to get more comfortable with it. But usually we’re kind of in a hurry to go somewhere or get a good, long walk in before work or school, etc. So I feel like it’s always one step forward, two steps back. :))
  • AnjyilAnjyil
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    I eventually gave up on the harness thing as my husband prefers a collar. I hope that when this collar finally dies, we can get a harness. Coal is okay with those that slip over the head, but seems to hate step-in ones. The type could well be part of the issue. Just take your time, lots of treats, and go step by step. kikopup on youtube has a great video on it...i lost the link though XD
  • @lilikoi - Senketsu is the same way. You can literally see the moment he admits defeat. He will usually walk decently with just a collar but I am terrified to use one because he has even slipped a harness in the past! He also likes to thrash when he's REALLY upset (a "temper tantrum") and I'm afraid he'll harm his spine in a collar. I honestly don't see him ever getting over his dislike of harnesses or any form of confinement :P
  • MeghanBCGMeghanBCG
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    We haven't tried a harness on Zuko yet, but Bonsai does ok once we get it on him. He'll run if he sees me pick it up, but we've figured out a way to trick him. He knows if we open the front door that it's time for a walk and he'll stand there at the glass door waiting to be let out. If I come up behind him with the harness he won't fuss and lets me put it on him. But if I were to try to put it on before he knew we were going out, no way no how is that harness going on, hahaha.

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