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Common Health Problems in Shiba Inu, Survey Results
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    For curiosity sake, I created a short survey about some common health issues in the breed. Please contribute!

    EDIT: there are now 2 parts to this survey for a total of 20 questions.

    http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/ZV56MH2

    http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5MFV897
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  • sunyatasunyata
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    Good idea, Lindsay!

    ETA: I took it twice, once for each Shiba.
    Bella 2Mountains 2Nola 2
    Casey, with Bella and Nola, hanging out in the mountains of Virginia.
    I Wander, I Ride
    Post edited by sunyata at 2011-08-17 08:59:43
  • YukikoYukiko
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    Great idea! Filled it out. Will you be sharing the results much later after more results come in?
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    I took it twice also and was hoping people with multiple dogs will contribute. I plan to share the results, if I can figure it out!
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  • Lindsay-

    You may want to add heart issues to the list of medical conditions.
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    That is a great suggestion, and something I overlooked. Let me see if I can change it somehow.
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    I have to make another due to the number of questions, so if your shibas have health conditions I didn't list, I can include them on a second survey.
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  • mattzmattz
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    Survey taken! LOL at the OCD question, is that a legit diagnosis of some Shibas??
  • StaticNfuzzStaticNfuzz
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    Thank you Lindsay for doing this.

    I wanted to take the survey multiple times (for multiple dogs) but survey monkey would not allow me to do that.

    Also I wanted to add cardio info as well.

    Is there a way for you to pose questions so that one survey can gain info about multiple dogs in one household? I have quite a few to add.


    I really hope everyone who has a shiba will take take the time to participate. I think it will help out over the long haul in determining factors for betterment of the breed.

    Snf
    Post edited by StaticNfuzz at 2011-08-17 10:40:10
  • sunyatasunyata
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    Patrice - Go to your internet browser's options and delete the cookies for survey monkey. It will allow you to retake it then.
    Bella 2Mountains 2Nola 2
    Casey, with Bella and Nola, hanging out in the mountains of Virginia.
    I Wander, I Ride
  • StaticNfuzzStaticNfuzz
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    Thanks Beth ....I will do that.

    Snf
    Post edited by StaticNfuzz at 2011-08-17 10:55:04
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    You can take it from other computers also. I have to make a new survey for cardiac, but any other ailments I can add to that. I am sure there are others, just not as common. I can ask something about treatments too.
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    @ mattz

    I suspect one of the new shibas here who has chewed her tail off may be a dog that has an element of OCD, but also certainly dogs who obsessively display behaviors over and over and require medication to manage it are what I am looking for with this question. Spinners would be in this category.
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  • mattzmattz
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    Ahh I see. I've never thought of dogs being that way, mostly because I haven't experienced these behaviors. Very interesting, thanks!
  • Lindsay, would it make sense the separate the allergy question into two parts? One for food and one for inhalant and other types (say, fleas)? I think on the allergy front it may also make sense to do an answer section that allows for gradations since there seems to be a pretty wide range and unfortunately I've been hearing about more and more shibas with severe allergies.
  • I took for it my little crazy girl, but have to delete the cookies to take it again for Toby.

    @Mattz, yeah, OCD can be common in some breeds. My akita chases his tail, which we have to stop so it doesn't turn into OCD behavior, which shows up in Akitas.

    Good idea, Lindsay!
  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    Very cool Lindsay! I may copy this for the Kai Ken...

    I did it twice too, one for each.

    For Kaia I put "yes" for Hip Dysplasia tho technically she doesn't have HD, but both her hips luxated and her radiography showed poorly formed hip sockets... So, I figured that was pretty close to HD, I mean some vets called it HD others disagreed.

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  • inubakainubaka
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    Interesting Brad - I got Tsuki xray'd and her vet said NO for HD even though her sockets are poorly formed and her hips aren't working properly. She sways when she walks, and her back legs (specifically the left) curves strange when she saunters around. Is that how Kaia walks?

    I'm convinced Tsuki has HD even if her xray doesn't show a text book case. I'm not going to operate based on my vet's opinion, but its still awfully hard to watch. She's not in pain though, I guess.

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  • curlytailscurlytails
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    Thank you so much for putting this together. I'm dying to see aggregate results, too.

    I actually wish there would be a more official push for a breed health survey with the OFA, like, the one available for the Akita. Meanwhile, I think polling this forum could make for some interesting statistics, because we have such a variety of Shibas from so many sources.
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    Post edited by curlytails at 2011-08-17 13:10:58
  • jujeejujee
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    Nice poll Lindsay! I took it :) Granted Mika is still young (turned 1 in April) so things could change in the next few years.
  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    Jen - Well, Kaia moves kinda odd now after 2 FHOs. There were disagreements between our vet, another vet, and our ortho vet about if Kaia has HD or simply has poorly formed (shallow) sockets. Her sockets are round and the joint fit nicely (tight - with no grinding), but the sockets were shallow, which caused her hips to pop out of the socket. So, that was the confusion and disagreements between the vets - was it HD since the socket and joint fit nicely w/ no grinding?

    Either way, her issue is more than likely caused by poor selection, and the end result was/is the same type of surgery needed to repair HD. The only difference is that Kaia had to suffer through (severe) acute pain (due to the luxation) before we knew there was an issue vs. HD which is a mild pain that worsens over time and can be diagnosed easier.

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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Here's the second part:

    http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5MFV897
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  • YukikoYukiko
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    Good question about the teeth.
  • MegaenMegaen
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    Took it twice for both of my shibas...
  • Would it be possible to include a N/A choice for the survey? There are probably members who have younger dogs who may not have shown signs of these disorders or they simply have not had a professional examine their dog. It might skew the statistics greatly. Another suggestion would be to include an age range so that you could split data by age groups and do a comparison that way. I expect you might find more "healthy" dogs within the 8wks-6 month range just because some illnesses may not appear until later in life, and these younger pups would skew the statistics.
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Which questions do you think should have an NA option?
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  • CaliaCalia
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    Lol, poor Lindsay is probably going to have to make several surveys to meet everyone's needs. Lindsay, I'm surprised you didn't give an age, gender and intact/fixed options to get a better idea of associative trends.
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  • Looking at the options, I would suggest a N/A option for some of the more difficult diagnoses... Probably: hypothyroid, immune disorder, liver shunt, OCD, cognitive dysfunction, vestibular disease. I might've missed some, but I assumed some of the disorders such as LP/HD could be readily examined during an x-ray.. while heart disorders may be caught in a routine checkup. The diseases with a larger array of symptoms seem to deserve a N/A option.

    I do think this is a great idea! It might even be useful to include some links out to wikipedia (or a more reputable source) descriptions of the diseases. That way, this survey can not only be used as a means of collecting data, but also as a means of informing shiba owners about some of the more prevalent disorders for the population.
  • I just did it again for Toby (had filled out first one for Bel). I was initially confused by the new questions, then realized there are now two surveys :)

    I don't know if Bel really has "cognitive dysfunction" in terms of a true diagnosis, but I decided to check it because among the things she HAS been diagnosed with, we also know she is certainly seems to be cognitively dysfunctional!

    I'm not sure I think some things need an NA. Isn't no just as clear? Also, hypothyroid is VERY easy to diagnose. It's just a simple blood test.
  • Miyumi_PupMiyumi_Pup
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    I didn't fill it out because Miyumi is barely 5 months old and her vet visits have been just about her vaccines/heart worm/ and nail trims. :)

    However- I do think it is a great idea.
    Heather, Logan, and two Shibas named Miyumi & Yoshiro
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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  • Ok, I thought I lost my mind. First I couldn't find this thread, then realized it had become a sticky. Then it wasn't a sticky any more! I really thought I'd lost it! :)

    Will look forward to hearing some of the results.
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Ha, I knew making it a sticky would make it invisible. People don't pay much attention to the stickies.
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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  • sunyatasunyata
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    Bump Again. :)
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Over 100 replies so far :) Keep them coming!

    I put parameters for ages for diseases where age of onset is important to note. I will probably refine this down the road and can include spay/neuter too. Thanks for that suggestion, I honestly didn't even think about including that, oops.
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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  • shibaserfshibaserf
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    I love the survey. Since you're taking questions/suggestions, if a dog has hypothyroidism that is caused by immune disfunction (as opposed to a more rare cancer or tumor cause), do you want immune disorder checked also or did you have other things in mind for immune disorder? Also, for my own curiousity, I wonder if anyone else's Shiba has ever been diagnosed with Endothelial Distrophy causing Corneal Edema. It can be both a genetic eye disease, prevalent in some breeds like Collies, Sheltie, Huskies, Beagles, Cavalier King Charles Spaniels and GSD's. It can also be a disease of old age. Diamond has Endothelial Distrophy/Corneal Edema and I'd like to know if it is prevalent in the breed and perhaps the opthalomoligists just haven't seen enough Shibas to recognize it.

    It might also be useful to have a place to put the dog's age or maybe something like puppy up to 2 years, 2 years to 5 years, etc.

    Thanks!
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    I think I will make a better survey based on the results, and will include those points, thanks for the suggestions!
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    I was thinking immune disorders would be a diagnosed immune globulin deficiency.
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    BuMp
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Ok, I have closed the survey. Nearly 200 responses gathered, but the tool would only show me data for up to 100 responses to each part. For some reason, 1 person skipped a bunch of answers. Yes or no were all I was looking for, either the dog has it, or it doesn't, so I assume the skipped answers are all No's? It skewed the data a little. Anyways, perhaps someone who is clever with stats can make this into a fancy graph or something.

    Based on this small sample, Atopy/skin allergy (28%), LP (20%) and Hypothyroid (12%) are the most prevalent diseases.

    Health Survey Part 1 (out of 100 displayed responses).

    1) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed with Glaucoma?
    answered question 100
    skipped question 0
    Percent Response Count
    Yes 5.0% 5
    No 95.0% 95

    2) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed with Luxating Patella?
    answered question 100
    skipped question 0
    Percent Response Count
    Yes 20.0% 20
    No 80.0% 80

    3) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed with Hip Dysplasia?
    answered question 100
    skipped question 0
    Percent Response Count
    Yes 4.0% 4
    No 96.0% 96

    4) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed Hypothyroid?
    answered question 100
    skipped question 0
    Percent Response Count
    Yes, my Shiba was less than 2 years old when diagnosed 5.0% 5
    Yes, my Shiba was between 2-8 years old when diagnosed 6.0% 6
    Yes, my Shiba was over 8 years old when diagnosed 1.0% 1
    No 88.0% 88

    5) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed with Epilepsy?
    answered question 100
    skipped question 0
    Percent Response Count
    Yes 3.0% 3
    No 97.0% 97

    6) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed with Atopy (skin allergies)?
    answered question 99
    skipped question 1
    Percent Response Count
    Yes, my Shiba was under 6 months when diagnosed 5.1% 5
    Yes, my Shiba was between 6 months-2 years old when diagnosed 11.1% 11
    Yes, my Shiba was older than 2 years old when diagnosed 12.1% 12
    No 71.7% 71

    7) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed with an Immune Disorder?
    answered question 99
    skipped question 1
    Percent Response Count
    Yes 3.0% 3
    No 97.0% 96

    8) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed with a Liver Shunt or hepatic disease?
    answered question 100
    skipped question 0
    Percent Response Count
    Yes 1.0% 1
    No 99.0% 99

    9) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder?
    answered question 99
    skipped question 1
    Percent Response Count
    Yes 5.1% 5
    No 94.9% 94

    10) Where did you get your Shiba Inu?
    answered question 100
    skipped question 0
    Percent Response Count
    My Shiba is from an NSCA or reputable AKC Show breeder 46.0% 46
    My Shiba is from a shelter or rescue group 15.0% 15
    My Shiba is from a pet store 11.0% 11
    My Shiba is from another source 28.0% 28
    "Common sense isn't so common"
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    Post edited by lindsayt at 2011-08-25 06:34:50
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Health Survey Part 2 (71 responses total)

    Based on this sample, Inhalent allergies (23.9%), Gut Issues (16.9%), Bad Bites (12.7%), and Skin Conditions Other than Atopy (10%) are the most common diseases.

    1) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed with a heart condition?
    answered question 71
    skipped question 0
    Percent Response Count
    Yes, when under 6 months 1.4% 1
    Yes, later in life 5.6% 4
    No 93.0% 66

    2) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed with Entropion?
    answered question 70
    skipped question 1
    Percent Response Count
    Yes 0.0% 0
    No 100.0% 70

    3) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed with cataracts?
    answered question 71
    skipped question 0
    Percent Response Count
    Yes, when under 1 year old 0.0% 0
    Yes, when between 1-8 years old 2.8% 2
    Yes, when over 8 years old 2.8% 2
    No 94.4% 67

    4) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed with inhalant allergies?
    answered question 71
    skipped question 0
    Response
    Percent Response Count
    Yes 23.9% 17
    No 76.1% 54

    5) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed with Irritable Bowel Disease, food intolerances causing GI upset, or a "sensitive stomach"?
    answered question 71
    skipped question 0
    Percent Response Count
    Yes 16.9% 12
    No 83.1% 59

    6) Has your Shiba Inu been identified to have malocclusion, a wry bite, missing teeth, undershot or overshot, or a "bad bite"?
    answered question 71
    skipped question 0
    Percent Response Count
    Yes 12.7% 9
    No 87.3% 62

    7) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed with Cognitive Dysfunction?
    answered question 70
    skipped question 1
    Percent Response Count
    Yes 2.9% 2
    No 97.1% 68

    8) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed with Vestibular Disease?
    answered question 71
    skipped question 0
    Percent Response Count
    Yes 0.0% 0
    No 100.0% 71

    9) Has your Shiba Inu been diagnosed with a skin condition other than Atopy such as lupus, alopecia, erythema, seborrhea, or hotspots?
    answered question 70
    skipped question 1
    Percent Response Count
    Lupus 1.4% 1
    Alopecia 0.0% 0
    Erythema 0.0% 0
    Seborrhea 0.0% 0
    Hotspots 8.6% 6
    No 90.0% 63

    10) Where did you get your Shiba Inu?
    answered question 71
    skipped question 0
    Percent Response Count
    My Shiba is from an NSCA or reputable AKC show breeder 43.7% 31
    My Shiba is from a shelter or rescue group 23.9% 17
    My Shiba is from a pet store 5.6% 4
    My Shiba is from another source 26.8% 19
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    Post edited by lindsayt at 2011-08-25 06:44:03
  • SakuSaku
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    Thank you so much for posting this Lindsayt. It really helps other shiba owners to be aware of signs of potential health problems!Saku & Mina's mom
  • Lindsay- Thanks so much for doing this survey. Very interesting.
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    You are welcome very much!

    I think this will help people interested in the breed.
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