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LP surgery and recovery and reinjury
  • (I renamed this thread as while it started as a place to discuss my dog's surgery and recovery, it might also continue as a place to discuss the surgery in general, so I made the name better reflect that).

    Thought I'd add updates about Bel's recovery here, as it might be helpful for others too who wonder what to expect from this surgery.

    Bel had her surgery today for her luxating patella, and I just got the call from the vet that she was groggy, but ok.

    It turned out to be more complicated that we expected though. We knew she had the LP issue, and if you've been reading about the problems with Bel, and seizures, etc, you'll know that it got worse recently. Before, she was in the probably will need surgery but doesn't need it right now category (grade 2 I think?) and then suddenly she was grade 5, as in not using the leg and we MUST do the surgery. I know that twice in Dec./Jan during heavy snows, she was knocked down by my big clumsy Akita pup, and both times, she cried quite a lot, but then seemed ok.

    Last week, though, her leg was swollen and was painful enough that nipped at me when I touched it. By the time I took her into the vet, the swelling was down, and my vet was able to manipulate the leg, and she said she wondered if there was damage to the ACL, because the knee didn't feel as bad as she had expected. We went ahead about put the splint on her, because my (conservative) vet wanted Bel used to the splint BEFORE the surgery, to make sure she didn't do more damage after the operation by trying to rip it off or anything. I know not all vets use splints after this kind of surgery, but I have faith in my old school vet who has done right by us, and plus, I could afford this surgery, and couldn't afford the high tech options elsewhere.

    Anyway, Bel did fine in the splint, and this morning she went in for the surgery. The vet found more swelling, and when she did the operation, she said not only was Bel's ACL damaged, but it was torn in half. Completely shredded, in fact. We both believe some of Bel's odd behavior recently has been due to the fact she must have been a great deal of pain, though she was not showing it (and oddly, only had swelling on the leg one day).

    The vet repaired it as best she could. She said in larger dogs they supplement the torn ligaments with material that is lab grown for this, but in smaller dogs, you can sometimes get away without doing this, and of course, she does not have the resources to do that kind of work, and I don't have the money, so she stitched Bel's torn up ligament together as best she could. She said Bel will not regain a full range of motion in the leg--but she believes she should get 80-90 percent back, and after the surgery, she was able to move the leg pretty well, and Bel already got up and stood on it.

    So it's not a perfect surgery, but the damage was much worse than we expected. The good news is Bel will still be mobile and even should be able to jump again, once she's healed. And she made it through just fine. She'll have to wear her splint for awhile afterwards--we'd talked about 7-12 days, but I'm not sure if it will be longer now that there is the ligament issue as well--and obviously will have to have very little movement for awhile, but she should make a pretty good recovery.

    eta: here's a link to a pic of her in her splint, which,yes, is covered in duct tape :)

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6165315&l=6480ba168a&id=545233194
    Post edited by shibamistress at 2014-03-08 16:37:07
  • LosechLosech
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    Poor girl, all that happening to one Shiba is tough. I hope she has a speedy recovery!
  • bobc33bobc33
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    Hope it is a full recovery and Bel is feeling good as soon as possible! She is lucky to have you shibamistress.
  • sunyatasunyata
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    Glad that things went as well as they did. And I am sure she will be just fine, if a little gimpy.

    Give her some extra kisses from us here in Virginia when she comes home!
    Bella 2Mountains 2Nola 2
    Casey, with Bella and Nola, hanging out in the mountains of Virginia.
    I Wander, I Ride
  • Well wishes and hopes for an uneventful recovery from Bear and Foxy!
  • Thinking good thoughts about Bel. Sukoshi sends doggie wishes-- and tell Bel to follow the vet's instructions. (She knows something about surgeries.)
  • the poor thing :( I hope she recovers quickly!
  • INU RYUUINU RYUU
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    Our wishes are with you and your pack for Bel's recovery. Inu and Penny have their paws crossed.
    犬竜
  • What a trooper... and what a wonderfully patient momma she has. Sending the very best to Bel and family!
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    Bowdu 寶肚 (Shiba) and Bowpi 寶媲 (Basenji) with M.C.
  • Thanks everyone for your well wishes--I'm sure Little Miss Jezebel appreciates them. She is ensconsed in her crate now. They forgot, though, that tramadol makes her hyper and gave her some for pain, and she was crazy when I went to get her, unfortunately. We had to give her another kind to get her calmed down.

    We spent a good hour with the vet explaining through drawing and models what she'd done to repair Bel's leg, and why she chooses to immobilize the leg though many vets do not. It was useful.

    Only bad news was the surgery took nearly 4 hours instead of 1.5 (she said the ACL was so shot she spent a long time just cleaning out the tiny pieces of ligament that were everywhere in there), so I now owe them WAY more money than I expected....but they're good about letting me pay payments, and I know if I had taken her elsewhere I probably would have had a $2000 + surgery, so I can't really complain.

    Still, wasn't pleased to get home and see that Toby has lost more hair on his neck and now down his chest. But for the moment he's getting benadryl and that's it....I can't deal with yet another vet bill right now.
  • sunyatasunyata
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    I was getting ready to send you a message to see how Bel is doing. Glad she is doing well.

    And it sucks that the surgery ended up being a little more than you expected. But it is pretty awesome that they are going to let you do payments. Not all vets are as accommodating as that, so yay!

    Sorry that Toby is not doing any better... Hopefully the benedryl will help. I wonder if his thyroid meds are a little off... I remember you saying that he was re-tested a little while ago and his levels were normal... I wonder if something has caused them to get a little low again?

    Still thinking about you guys and hope that the rest of Bel's recovery goes smoothly.
    Bella 2Mountains 2Nola 2
    Casey, with Bella and Nola, hanging out in the mountains of Virginia.
    I Wander, I Ride
  • JessJess
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    Get better soon Bel :)

    Such a trooper for going through all that :(
  • lockshi3lockshi3
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    Glad the surgery went ok. wishes for a speedy recovery to Bel!
  • Yeah, my vet is super good about the payment stuff--I'm really lucky about that, because I simply couldn't have done this otherwise.

    Poor Bel was in a huge amount of pain this afternoon, though. I'd gone into town, and she was sleeping in her crate when I left, but she woke up and needed to go out (she's been drinking a lot) and my husband took her out very briefly, and then she started shaking and couldn't seem to warm up....pretty soon she was having these huge shaking tremors, and crying, then sort of moaning/almost howling.....He gave her more pain meds, and took her out of her crate and put her on her chair, on her sheepskin, and wrapped her up in a blanket, and by the time I got home she was just groggy, but poor little thing! I hadn't thought about how painful the surgery must be, but now I feel dumb for not thinking about it....they had cut part of the bone for her knee cap to sit in, as well as repair the ligament... It must be awful!

    But now she seems ok....she pushed the blanket off and I'm giving her ice chips, and she seems to want to chew so she's got a pig's ear, and she seems stoned by not in pain, and enjoying her treat. Poor little thing!

    eta: poor girl--she peed on herself in her chair, which is probably why she wanted to get out of the chair suddenly. I don't care--it's all washable and it's not her fault, but...
    Post edited by shibamistress at 2011-02-06 03:29:05
  • Poor Bel--she seems to be incontinent. Whether it is one of the meds she's taking or it is just that she can't easily get up, she's peeing on herself in the big crate regularly. She's disturbed by it--if nothing else, it must be uncomfortable being cold and damp--and she is a Shiba and keeps trying to lick herself clean. It's obvious though that she's not aware she's doing it....she just pees, then after awhile looks distressed. I just took a quick trip to the thrift store to buy yet another old comforter for her to lay on so now we have two--one will always be in the wash, I suspect.

    One of my friend's mom's said her poodle had the same problem for the first couple of days after her LP surgery, so I suspect it's not uncommon.

    My vet said they'd see me on Friday unless there were complications, including swelling of the foot. Bel's foot is not swollen, but this afternoon I noticed her hock is swollen, so I'll be in the vet again tomorrow morning, I suspect. She hasn't been moving around much at all--too much pain, too drugged--but I also have not been able to "elevate" the leg as suggested. Mostly I'm just keeping her as warm and dry as possible--she's always so cold when she comes back from inside, so she's always wrapped in a blanket as well being snuggled onto her comforter. (Luckily the thing is huge, so I can move her around to a dry spot before I have to get this one in the washer too).
  • Don't know how Bel likes to sleep, but maybe if you put a rolled towel or something under her leg, it would help elevate the leg.
  • IchigoIchigo
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    Poor Bel. :( I hope she recovers soon! She's so lucky to have such a wonderful owner/Mom.
  • sunyatasunyata
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    Sorry to hear that Bel is so uncomfortable. I wish I could be of more assistance, but I do not really have any suggestions for you.

    Just try and keep her as comfy as possible. Hopefully after another day or so and she will be doing better. Did you end up taking her to the vet today?
    Bella 2Mountains 2Nola 2
    Casey, with Bella and Nola, hanging out in the mountains of Virginia.
    I Wander, I Ride
  • I hope she recovers soon. It sucks when you can't explain to them why they have to go through this.
  • She did go to the vet today, and they washed and dried her little leg splint (which we are now referring to her as her "chap") and he cleaned her up, and said the incision looked fine, and the swelling was no more than is normal (it already seems a bit better). He just suggested I give her a little less Acepromazine to stop the peeing on herself problem, and she's not in nearly as much pain today, so it seems doable. But she was in so much pain Saturday and into Sunday.

    She seems more chipper and she is eating well.
  • sunyatasunyata
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    Glad that she seems to be doing better. Poor girl. But hopefully the next couple of days will show lots of positive progress. :)

    Thinking of you guys and sending virtual hugs!
    Bella 2Mountains 2Nola 2
    Casey, with Bella and Nola, hanging out in the mountains of Virginia.
    I Wander, I Ride
  • I took off Bel's splint yesterday. The vet wanted it on another week, but it was wet and smelly, and I thought it needed to come off, esp. since not all vets splint dogs at all after this.

    I'm glad I took it off. Her leg looks as if the muscles have atrophied a bit, but the incision is clean and healing well, and even is already growing new hair. the splint had been rubbing on her groin and had rubbed a sore spot which is one of the reasons I think she's been reluctant to use the leg--she stood on it right away once the splint was off, though she's still carrying it more than walking on it. I think I need to do some physical therapy with her....I'm not going to take her to a place to do it, but with some help from others who have been through it, I think I can do some very slow and easy exercises to get her to use the leg a bit more (and still not let her run and jump like a maniac!)

    She'll have to keep the cone on--she wanted to lick right away--but at least the splint has come off, and she seems more comfortable.
  • bobc33bobc33
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    Good news Shibamistress, we're rooting for you!
  • SayaSaya
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    I'm glad she is doing better can't wait to hear more on her.
    Nicole, 5year old Bella(Boxer), and 4year old Saya(Shiba inu)
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Get her a balance ball and half ball. There are some good range/wt tolerance things you can try.
    "Common sense isn't so common"
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  • Lindsay, what do I do with the balance ball?

    Also, Bel has had a set back, and I'm really upset, because it's my fault (and my vet's fault). Thursday night she seemed a bit lethargic and wasn't eating well, but she never really does, so I wasn't too concerned. Yesterday she would not eat anything, and wouldn't even take her pills, which she usually does well. I tried them in liverwurst, peanut butter, and cream cheese and each was rejected, so I had to just make her swallow them. She was also extremely restless and pacing yesterday, and drank a lot and peed a lot. I was starting to get worried last night.

    Today she won't eat. Still pacing, drinking a lot, peeing a lot, and I noted it looked darker than usual. I remember Toby had liver damage after his attack by Bel, and I started to worry, as his syptoms were similar. Today, she is clearly sick, lethargic but also pacing, and when she drank water today, she threw it up immediately, and will take NOTHING. So I looked over her meds.

    DAMN IT. Why didn't I do this earlier? Why did my vet not note the drug interactions here? Bel is taking SIX different meds, and every single one (thyrosyn aside) can cause liver damage. Every one, even the antibiotic (clydamycin). And she's been taking these for 3-4 weeks.

    I have no doubts this is what wrong with her. The vet is out of town right now, and I can't afford to take her to the emergency vet (though I don't think she necessarily needs to go either). So I'm just going to treat her as if she does have liver problems: I'm taking her off all meds except the phenobarb (because I can't stop that one, except for very gradually), I'm starting the liver cleansing diet with her (here: http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/liver_diet.htm ), and I'm giving her milk thistle and b-complex (both of which, along with SAM-E was what Toby got for his liver condition, and he was back to normal levels within three months). She needs to stay hydrated, so I've had to force feed her some pedialyte, which has stayed down, and I managed to get her to eat of a teaspoon full of chicken and rice baby food. I'll probably have to force feed her the fish and potatoes too, but I hope her stomach will start to feel better soon so I won't have to be forcefeeding for too long (though with Toby, it was nearly a month of force-feeding, so....)

    And of course she'll need a full liver panel done. Damn it! I am so mad about this--mad at my vet for not thinking about it, but in some ways even madder at myself, because I've been through this before with a dog, and I should have looked at the drug interactions myself.

    anyway, I feel like the next 24 hours are crucial--can I keep her hydrated? (When Toby was sick like this, he went into the vet on an IV, but he was also much sicker than Bel is right now) I think I can, and I know that what I am doing for is likely what the vet would do anyway, so I think we'll be able to get her through, but I'm really pretty upset.
  • ladyritaladyrita
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    Oh dear shiba mistress! Please don't blame yourself as your vet really should have gone through the drug interactions with you (especially since she is taking so many different kinds of medications) part of their job is to treat their patient's parents as laypeople and it was a careless mistake on the vet's part - another story related to this I will post shortly in my "Going under the knife thread". LUCKILY, you caught the signs as early as you did and it was very fortunate for you (not Toby) that you had experienced something like this before. Thoughts and prayers for Bel's safe recovery :)
  • Thinking positive thoughts. Do what you need to do.
  • jujeejujee
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    So sorry to hear about this set back with Bel and bout her liver. I hope things pull through and that she is better soon! Sending positive thoughts your way.
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    The best thing I can suggest is to get her to the Vet for medical care and to a rehab specialist for post op instructions.
    "Common sense isn't so common"
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  • CaliaCalia
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    I hope she s doing better today, even f it is slightly
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  • She's not throwing up today, so that is better. She's still not eating, but I've made a concotion which combines her liver cleanse diet (boiled potatoes and white fish) with goats milk and chicken broth. I pureed it, and I'm able to get her to eat it by putting it in a syringe and shooting it into her mouth. That and some more pedialyte (though she is drinking some on her own) are keeping her going today, and seems slightly less sick then yesterday.

    I got some really good PT suggestions, and had plans for very mild exercise with her, but obviously right now she's too sick to do anything but sleep, with hourly doses of puree that she certainly isn't enjoying, though as I said, the fact that she's not vomiting is a plus.

    On a side note, both Oskar and Toby thing the puree is the best thing ever, and don't understand why Bel is refusing it! They're both looking at me like, hey, we'll eat that! *lol*

    eta: after forcefeeding her two syringes full of her puree, she ate some on her own! Granted, it was only like a tablespoon full that she lapped up, but the fact that she took anything on her own is a good sign.
    Post edited by shibamistress at 2011-02-28 05:00:13
  • ladyritaladyrita
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    Fantastic news! Sounds like she is on the mend :) It must be encouraging to see that your hard work with the hourly feedings seems to be paying off. When will your vet be in town again? Hopefully soon but it sounds to me as though you're doing an excellent DYI vet job yourself :D
  • Sorry I forgot to come back and answer this. I have an appt. for Monday morning--my vet will be back then.

    In the meantime, Bel is significantly better today. She ate some (grainfree) kibble on her own! And she's as restless as can be, which is annoying but at least she feels a little better!

    It could be that she was sick for some other reason and didn't want to eat, but the symptoms were so similar to what happened to Toby, I still suspect the meds as having caused the problem. We'll see when I get blood work done and get the results. I'm just glad she's doing ok now, even if she is driving me crazy. (She wants to go out and run around, and so she's bashing her cone against the crate.)
  • SayaSaya
    Posts: 6678
    Poor Bel glad she is doing better now.
    Nicole, 5year old Bella(Boxer), and 4year old Saya(Shiba inu)
  • Just thought I'd let everyone know that Bel is doing really well. She is walking on her leg without limping, now. When she wants to run, she tends to hold that leg and run on three legs, but I noticed this week she is not even doing that anymore. (today was the first day I allowed her to go out in the yard off leash, and I was pleased to see she wandered around and sniffed, and ran a little bit, but came back in the house fairly quickly).

    She's not supposed to jump up yet (like on the sofa or bed), but she hasn't been wanting to do that. I suspect her leg still bothers her a bit. She also isn't able to sit well. But still, she's doing really well overall.

    She's also completely over the illness from her meds, and is eating well again. Now if we can her hair to grow back in, she'll be back to normal!
  • AraksAraks
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    That's great to hear :) The hair on Sevuk's chest finally grew back since he had that lump removed in february.
  • shibamistressshibamistress
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    Just thought I'd give people a head's up on Bel, and a warning, of sorts, of what CAN happen after surgery. Maybe it will help other people be more careful than we were.

    Bel was doing really well. The last time I took her into the vet, in May, the vet was able to manipulate her leg really well, and she was very pleased with how much flexibility she had in it. The kneecap was tight and felt really good. We figured Bel had about 95 % range of movement back in that leg, which my vet felt was extraordinarily good.

    She told me I could let Bel in the yard for limited times now, though she didn't want her running along the fence. The running wasn't the problem, but she was worried about sudden stops and twists.

    But the problem is, I can't just let Bel out for a limited time as she won't come when called. I was trying to keep her in. But she's a door bolter, and she got out a couple of times, and ran and ran (and probably did other things she shouldn't do). One of these times she came back carrying the leg (she doesn't even limp--she just holds the leg in the air).

    I thought it might be overuse, so since that happened (about 2 weeks ago) I've not been letting her out in the yard. I take her out on the leash to potty. But the leg has not gotten better. I note, now, that she has a hard time walking because she's putting so much stress on the other leg (which also has a bad LP problem. Last night she fell down, even. She doesn't seem to be in pain like she was with the torn ACL, but I think it is an ACL problem as the knee still feels pretty good.

    I'm just devastated. My vet is out of town til the end of the month, so I won't be taking her back in til then, but I know it's not likely to be good news. And since I only just finished paying off the first surgery, I can't afford another right now and of course, the concern all along has been that her not using this leg will really damage the other leg.

    I'm trying not to overreact to this as utter disaster (as I tend to) but I am worried. Before the surgery we did do, my vet warned me that if this one didn't go well, Bel could stress the other leg bad enough that we'd need surgery there too (which is happening) and then she was very frank, and pointed out that 1) Bel would be a difficult dog to try to immobilize with TWO back legs, and that given Bel's other health issues, I should think seriously before spending thousands of dollars (that they know I don't have) to fix her legs when they can't even guarantee we'd be able to fix them. She was right to bring these things up, and though they were nothing I hadn't thought of myself, it's still upsetting. I had hoped that the surgery we did would fix things, but....

    Anyway, I thought I'd update people on our less than ideal situation. I'm going to keep Bel on very low activity til my vet is back, and maybe we'll have some good news after all.

    And I'd also like to say that if you have to get this kind of surgery, be SUPER cautious and conservative in the activity your dog has afterwards. I wish I had been more careful. Six months of only leash walks would have been better than redamaging the leg in this way.
  • Shibamistress-

    I'm so sorry for you (and Ms. Bel). That sounds very difficult.

    Hopefully Crash won't have the same issues. I'll definitely learn from your experience. I think, though, I may have an easier time, as we can't ever let him run free... we live in the city with a poorly fenced-in backyard, so by default he'll never be off leash.

    I'll keep you and Bel in my prayers.
  • shibamistressshibamistress
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    Thanks Rocketbabe, we appreciate it! And yes, I think we would have been better off if she had not ever been off the leash :( I don't think what happened with Bel is typical, and her surgery was more complicated than just LP surgery, but I figured it's worth letting people know if it can save another dog from such a quick reinjury!

    I came back to edit this to ask if anyone knew of any over the counter meds/supplements to help with ligament issues? Besides glucosamine/chondotirin? Someone on another forum I'm on said they'd heard of something that you can get that helps strengthen ligaments or something like that, but they can't remember what it is called. So if anyone has any suggestions, we're open!
  • Shibamistress- I read your blog from start to finish... No, I'm not Shiba-obsessed... *rolls eyes*

    Anyway, from what I gather, under all of her Princess-y exterior, Bel's not going to let anything stop her. I know she was a puppy mill dog, so I'm sure that has something to do with her health. On the other hand, she's very lucky to be with you. Many others would've put her down.

    - Jacqui

    PS Toby, by far, makes me laugh the most.
  • jujeejujee
    Posts: 882
    Oh no! I thought Bel was on her way to a nice recovery. I know how hard it's been on you these past years with all her health problems and issue. I do hope everything turns out for the better. Sending happy thoughts and vibes your way Lisa!
  • YukikoYukiko
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    You might have already mentioned this somewhere, but have you heard of a dog knee brace or given any thought to one?

    We have a client who is a physical therapist and has a 12-year-old Wheaten Terrier Mix. He has a heart murmur, renal disease, maybe some other things?, and given his age and condition, surgery was not really an option for his CCL tear. He was holding up one of his rear legs constantly and of course having trouble getting around. The owner chose to try a knee brace. It looks like this stifle brace: http://www.handicappedpets.com/www/help-pets-walk/dog-braces.html#orthotics

    The "procedure" was not too complicated either. Luckily her dog was extremely sweet and extremely still so he didn't have to be sedated. She brought him in one morning, we shaved his entire leg naked, made a cast of his leg, and she sent that cast to some lab up north (maybe NY?). The lab provided the kit for making the cast. Within a week she had a custom brace and when we saw him several weeks later, he was doing great! He was bearing weight on his leg, walking around, and was even doing stairs.

    She mentioned that the cost of the brace was way cheaper than surgery (which is around 3-4k here) and it was very time consuming. She said he had to stay still while she strapped on and off his brace several times a day, she had to check for raw spots on the skin frequently (she said it was really well made so there weren't any issues with raw spots), and she did physical therapy exercises on the leg every day.

    My experience with the knee brace is completely based off this one client and there were a lot of circumstances that contributed to the brace helping. If it sounds like something you'd be interested in, I'd be more than happy ask the owner about the lab and any other information.

    *edited to say: It sounds like you already spend so much time on your babies, I know the time consuming part isn't really an issue for you. =Phttp://queenshiba.tumblr.com
    Post edited by Yukiko at 2011-06-17 15:29:32
  • LosechLosech
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    Man that stinks. Poor Bel, I really hope she doesn't hurt her leg further.

    I use a glucosamine/chondroitin/msm supplement called Liquid Health and salmon oil. That company makes several grades and also makes human and equine products.
    When Conker's LP first became apparent his right knee went out a couple times a day and some of those times he couldn't get it back in on his own. His left knee has gone out a few times but hasn't since the beginning. Now his right knee only goes out once or twice a week. It's been about 11 weeks since I started him on the g/c/msm thing.
    Conker's play style and amount of play hasn't changed one bit since I started him on the supplements. I really think they are helping a lot since when his right knee does luxate it's only very mild and goes back in after a couple seconds.
    I have no idea if the stuff I'm doing with Conker strengthens the ligaments or whatever, but whatever it's doing I'm gonna keep it up if it can reduce future damage and potential surgery on Conker's leg.
  • euphaireeuphaire
    Posts: 347
    That really sucks!! I hope Bel recovers ASAP. Is it possible to reach your vet by email and get her to refer you to another vet temporarily? I can't offer any advice but I really hope things will work out nicely in the end. Love your blog.
  • sunyatasunyata
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    Lisa, I am so sorry to hear about Bel's backslide. Hopefully it is just a strain and some rest will help her heal up.

    I have heard that velvet elk antler is good for joint health. I am not sure if it is pretty much the same as glucosamine/chondroitin, though.
    Bella 2Mountains 2Nola 2
    Casey, with Bella and Nola, hanging out in the mountains of Virginia.
    I Wander, I Ride
  • curlytailscurlytails
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    Makes me sad to hear about Bel's difficulties... especially since I know you do everything you can for her.
    Shibas! Why don't they just know what's good for them sometimes?!
    Sorry I've got nothing to offer by way of advice.
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Sorry to hear this. There is a company who makes knee braces for ACL injuries in dogs. All they need is some measurements based on radiographs, and they will customize a brace for Bel. At the least, I would get her one for the "good" leg.
    "Common sense isn't so common"
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  • FoxyloverFoxylover
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    I just read this full thread. I'm so sorry to hear all that you've gone through with Bel and that she's still having these problems. It's comforting knowing that she's being taking care of so well by a very loving owner.

    I'll keep you all in my thoughts/prayers as I'm sure that it can't be easy worrying about her and all the what ifs that keep coming your way.
  • shibamistressshibamistress
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    Just got back in town, and Bel doesn't look any better (or any worse). I hadn't thought of the leg braces, so that is something to consider. I'm going to talk to my vet when they get back in town.
  • I thought I'd update this thread. More than a year out, Bel is doing quite well with the leg she had surgery on. She has recovered about 85-90 range of motion, meaning she can't quite get the full flexibility the leg had, but that is only noticeable when manipulating her leg into a full extension or full bent postion.

    She looks just fine in day to day life--she can run, jump, etc. She still can't get into a sit with ease, though, so we just don't make her sit.

    The vet did tell us she would need to have the other leg done eventually, and I have noticed in the past few months she seems to be favoring the other leg ever so slightly if she's been running around a lot (she's a pretty active dog). She also seems a bit stiff in the evening.

    We're not going to have the surgery done on the other leg, so I'm hoping that she'll be able to keep going with just minor problems for quite awhile.

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