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Bath time
  • JenngamJenngam
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    I know it's looked down upon to give Shibas baths all time, but would it be okay if I wet them down more often? I ask because one of mine gets so dirty from being outside that using a wet rag to clean her up takes too long. Would it be okay to rinse them off regularly?
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  • bobc33bobc33
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    I've had Scout for two years, tried to give her a bath in the bathtub once and ended up with a ton of claw marks all over me. If she really doesn't want to do something it is pretty hard to convince her. I've had her groomed at the vets office once and the groomer said she was doing the Shiba scream the whole time.

    I've had Shadow a year, and because of his, at times, angry temperment and real biting I would never dream of trying to bathe him. (His thyroid medication is really helping though) I've had him groomed once and while not as bad as Scout he didn't like it.

    That said both of them keep themselves remarkably clean.
  • SayaSaya
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    Saya gets dirt on her from walking in the fields she avoids puddles, but somewhow gets dirty probably from messing in the high grass..

    She cleans off pretty easy once the dirt dries she is clean..

    I've only given her two baths, but I don't think I'll bath her unless she decides scent rolling in coyote poop is fun then I'll bath her.. lol

    I've even had her swimming in a lake and in my pond and I just toweled her off her oils keep her fur pretty dry..

    Bella my parent's boxer she gets bathed more often if it's something minor like getting muddy from the pond then we just wash her with plain water if she rolled in deer poop then we bath her in soap luckily she hasn't tried to scent roll anymore yet..

    I use earthbath mangotango shapoo pretty nice smelling..
    Post edited by Saya at 2010-10-28 16:49:09
  • I wipe Yoshi down with baby wipes after the park. I only bathe him if he's really muddy or really stinky, which isnt that often at all. Emi has gotten one bath so far....not too bad.
  • We're in the tropics, it's hot and humid so things start smelling a lot faster. Our breeder bathes his Shibas once a week and we've been doing the same with our Mori.
    Since the humidity here is almost 100% all the time, their skin don't dry out, but we still use a conditioner to keep Mori's coat in good condition.

    Partly because we do it so often and we praise him all the time for exploring in the shower and standing there, Mori tolerates his showers without fuss.
    He had his first bath at about 3.5 months. His favorite part of it is being dried with a towel though, he'll kinda dive into the towel and try to roll himself dry.
    The dog run that we take him to has a swimming pool for dogs and some of the Shibas who came from the same breeder as Mori actually like swimming in the pool.

    We use baby wipes to clean him off if he's been rolling in wet/ muddy grass when we take him out for walks. That is more of a struggle than the shower because he thinks the wipe is a toy for tug of war.
  • I only bathe Kuma if he's been rolling in something smelly. Usually dirt just falls off once it dries.
    He doesn't like the bath, but he only starts to whimper/scream if I take too long, so it's usually quick baths :p

    Always wipe his paws with baby wipes before going to bed. He sometimes sleep in my bed (he prefers the floor) and I know where those paws have been...
    He doesn't really like that either, but he's a real nice and quiet boy.
  • CaliaCalia
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  • ljowen123ljowen123
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  • I do wash once a month Hiro with PLUSH PUPPY PRODUCTS , ALL NATURALS , are very good and makes the red sesame hair very shiny!
  • emmyemmy
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    I last bathed my shiba in May of this year. He was doing fine, then suddenly this last week I started to think he was gonna need a bath soon. Suddenly today I realize that he just stinks! Doesn't smell like anything is WRONG, just like dirty little dog!! So question that how it happens? Just seems like you wake up one day and shiba needs a BATH?

    I made a grooming appt. for tomorrow at a place with good reviews. Hoping he still loves me after. And excited about laundering my bedding and having a clean dog to sleep with tomorrow night!!!
  • roxanneroxanne
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  • DrySeDrySe
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    I bathe both my guys usually once a week (or twice if they get really dirty). Since people mentioned oils on their coats. Is there a tell tale sign that a dog is getting too many baths?

    I haven't noticed anything different with my guys when they bath a lot or a little other than the smell. Sometimes I will do once a month, and sometimes I will do once a week. I use earthbath shampoo products and will occasionally use conditioner as well. I haven't noticed a difference with conditioner either so I have kinda stopped using it.

    There fur always feels soft and full even when shedding despite so many baths.
  • sunyatasunyata
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  • @ramen_noodle_puppy - actually my partner is a research scientist doing personal care (with a PhD in chemical engineering) and he says there is not much difference in using people or dog shampoo. If you use people shampoo you just want to use one with gentler surfactants.

    We only wash our guys once every 3-4 months. Mind you, neither of them rolls in anything, but if your dog is healthy, on a good diet, and doesn't roll in stuff, you really don't need to wash them any more frequently than that. They shouldn't have a dog smell or oily feeling coat if all is well. To get rid of things like dirt and mud (or saliva from the dog park) the easiest thing to do is to let it dry and give them a good brushng afterwards.

    Neither of our guys get baths because of smell (our girl smells like shampoo for months, funnily not the one she uses, though she is a bit of a freak). Baths help a lot during coat blows and mini-blows in getting rid of the undercoat coming out of them (in addition to way too much brushing).
  • devonmlewisdevonmlewis
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    I'll probably be like most shiba parents on here, and wash my dog minimally (only when its needed). There is a lot of stuff here in Alaska that gets him dirty (our nature walks!) but he cleans himself up really well, and if necessary I use the puppy wipes. As an FYI, we are in the rain forest, not up north where it's really dry.

    I'm considering taking him to the groomer to get a bath so that he can get used to it (kind of like how I got his nails clipped last month- he didn't really need it, but I wanted him to be comfortable with a groomer early on). What are people's thoughts on this? He's already so dramatic that I'd like him to be comfortable in different types of "high stress" situations. He does go into the shower with me, so I know that he's not too afraid of water.
  • zandramezandrame
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    @devonmlewis, if you can, you should start bathing Yuki while he is still young so it's not as big a deal. If he walks into the shower with you, great. I think a groomer is an unnecessary expense since Shibas do not need to be trimmed, just washed. Nails are a different story, and we have to see a professional - but not for lack of trying at home first!
  • devonmlewisdevonmlewis
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    @zandrame I agree- but I would rather have a groomer "deal" with it if he's shiba screaming. Maybe I could try it, though. Maybe I'll check in with the thread if I decide to try it. :)
  • BootzBootz
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    Try it yourself first to see how it goes. Some Shibas scream, some just tough it out and go with it. Best to keep all experience positive if you can. Not sure if your Shiba will be comfortable with a stranger bathing her.

    If your Shiba does scream while you bathe him/her, just make sure to try to soothe him/her with your voice. It goes a long way and with good reinforcement the Shiba will learn its best to go with the flow instead of fight ;)

  • devonmlewisdevonmlewis
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    Godo tips @bootz !! :) I shall try it.
  • zandramezandrame
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    @Bootz is right, the best way to keep it positive is to do it yourself. It's a rare groomer who will take the time to make the experience a good one. And few are that experienced with Shibas, let alone prepared for the screaming. Most are on a schedule and want to get things done as quickly as possible.

    We took Kouda to a well-rated groomer once. Kouda was well behaved, no aggression whatsoever, despite the trembling and screaming. But the guy finally got frustrated and BLEW IN HIS FACE to make him be quiet. That was it, we were done. We noped out of there and did not have to pay.
  • Kira_KiraKira_Kira
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  • devonmlewisdevonmlewis
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    @bootz and @zandrame update!! I bathed Yuki over the weekend!!! I will never bathe him at a groomer (and use the money I saved to get him a Pet Box LOL!).

    He seemed a scared at first, and I didn't bathe him head to toe, just because he is't really needing one, it was more to see how he'd do. I did get his upper body and face totally wet and used the puppy shampoo on him. He tried to get away a few times, but I redirected him and he just stood there (probably in shock). No crying (thank goodness!).

    He let me use the towel on him instead of thinking it was something to play with/attack, and then fell asleep in his towel about five minutes later. Too cute! He did really well.
  • Kira_KiraKira_Kira
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  • BootzBootz
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    Since you're trying to keep baths a minimal, make sure you bathe her at the peek of her shedding.

    I usually give Bootz a good 30-45 min massage/rub down while using my hands (or if you have a zoom groom) to loosen up all that fur. It helps TREMENDOUSLY but of course does not stop the shedding. *** please remember to use some kind of back up net mesh thing to catch the fur or it'll clog up your plumbing
  • Kira_KiraKira_Kira
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  • BootzBootz
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    You sure try to look at another comforter for shedding season ( Haha ). I usually just shake mine, and all Bootz fur comes off.
  • sunyatasunyata
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  • brscrnsbrscrns
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    I usually use a lint brush to de-furr it and if it is super furry then I put it in the dryer with no heat for about 10 minutes.
  • Otto (4 months) only had one bath while with us and it was at the vet. I was assisted by his trainer, who he loves, and, boy, did I need help. He screamed and tried to get away. This was about 6 weeks ago and though I could wait a bit longer, as part of getting him used to new experiences I think I should wash him again. I'll do it this weekend at home this time, but I have to say I'm kind of worried. He is usually a sweet puppy but he goes bonkers when anyone tries to restrict him. He nipped at people he usually likes at the vet when he got his nails clipped and he has bit me once when I tried to control a tantrum on a walk.

    I still have a lot to learn :S
  • I cross my fingers, but I gave Kiba his first bath a couple weeks ago, because he was shedding so bad, he would leave my jeans covered in his dog fur at the end of puppy class...I put my swimsuit on, filled the bath tub with water as he sat in the bathroom with me...once filled i jumped in and had my girl pass him to me...he did great! He didnt really try to get away until i started running the water through the shower head...
  • Casper101Casper101
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  • MoxyFruvousMoxyFruvous
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    We usually have the groomer at our vet office wash ours. It just seems safer for everyone.

    However, when we are not able to get in, I take them to a place near my home. Its $16 and you can stay as long as you need. They have big, deep metal tubs, a collar lock on the wall (so no escaping and head control, so no biting) a hand sprayer, shampoos, brushes, towels, treats and blow dyers. Its all do it yourself. You can safely wash your dog and have no clean up to do! They will trim nails and ash ears for you. its part of the package.

    So what I am suggesting is check around your area for do it yourself dog bathing shops. Its so worth it.
  • FoxysMumFoxysMum
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    I've been taking Foxy to the groomer's once every month. Originally we did Petsmart; but, I found a new, totally awesome grooming shop that's kennel free (they have staff playing with the dogs and giving them treats while they wait). I took both dogs last week and my only issue is that they both seems to be shedding more that they've gotten that deshedding shampoo. I wonder if its just coincidence as it coincides with the start of the warmer weather?

    Since the snow melted, I've been wiping off feet and faces (especially noses) with a washcloth dipped in warm water and puppy shampoo after every walk. Foxy complains each and every time, yet keeps pretty still because she knows that treats come when I'm done.
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    Banjo LOVES bathtime (we got a self-washing station in the building and when we walk past he tries to drag me inside). I also enjoy giving him a bath.

    How often is too often for bathing a shiba? I've read you can bathe your shiba every other week, and i've read it shouldn't be a more than twice a year thing.

    Would love advice from y'all on what is too frequent for bath time.... I want to give him one every day as its a LOT of fun.

    P.S. I use Tropiclean Spa Lavish Shampoo and Conditioner (matching fragreneces because it seemed simpler)


  • Thanks for the tips, @casper101. I think you are right, generous treats is pretty much how we have been dealing with every situation Otto is not comfortable with. In his opinion, the greatest treat known to man is peanut butter. He only gets that on very special occasions. I have to say, he is more mature now and a lot easier to deal with.

    I wasn't involved in his last bath, my husband washed him without any help and Otto was unhappy but didn't throw a fit. There is a self-washing station at the vet, but since he freaks out I think the tub at home is more comfortable for him.

    As to how often, we only bathe him when he smells, maybe it will be more often in the summer. I honestly don't feel like bathing a dog that looks perfectly clean just to have a schedule, so I think he will probably end up having 4-5 baths a year. Maybe I would feel differently if he liked it.
  • Jshaw1993Jshaw1993
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    @BanjoTheBetaDog I work in a grooming salon and our general recommendation is once a month if you prefer. Me personally I bather Blitz every 2-3 months unless he's rolled in something that makes it necessary to be sooner. We use the Tropiclean Spa line because we love it. Renew is my favorite
  • Kira_KiraKira_Kira
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  • JuniJuni
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    If he enjoys the water and pampering maybe you can bathe him more often but not use any schampoo?
  • LilikoiLilikoi
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    Heyo! I'd really like to know everyone's opinions of bathing a puppy... I'm conflicted about it. I've been reading a bunch of old threads but still haven't reached a conclusion. So I've been considering giving Ozzy a bath (10 weeks) mostly for the experience / desensitization. He's not terribly dirty, not sparkly clean either. We just moved to our new apartment and they had the carpet cleaned a couple of days before we got Ozzy. We've been putting almond / lavender oil on his belly because it was getting a bit aggravated, we think from the carpet. It helped wonderfully, but now his underside is rather oily haha.

    So it's not like he desperately needs a bath. He's gotten pretty comfortable with being brushed and using the nail dremel because we practice those, and I was wondering if i should practice bathing as well. I know shibas rarely need baths and it can be bad to give them too many, so I'm not sure if I should just wait and bathe him only when he needs it, or if gently introducing the experience while he's young could help him become more comfortable with it as he gets older. What do you guys recommend??
  • JuniJuni
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    It's up to you, but plan ahead so you don't need to take him out to go potty when he's wet and it is freezing outside.

    I didn't bathe Juni until she was about 9 months old (a friend has never bathed her shiba ever! And he has wonderful fur) Juni is not keen on baths but she puts up with it very well. So I don't think it's necessary to train everything from puppyhood if that is the main reason for bathing him now.
  • NikkitineNikkitine
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  • pyleapylea
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    I don't think it would hurt to give Ozzy a bath just for the experience. I've bathed Pylea twice to get her accustomed to it. She looks/smells clean but the bathwater was a murky brown, so maybe she needed it (I've never seen her groom herself). I probably will bathe her a few more times as a pup. I use an organic oatmeal shampoo to which I added organic cold-pressed neem oil for flea and tick control.
  • LilikoiLilikoi
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    Would bathing with just water be less drying?? The shampoo I have is earth bath I think. I was considering going really light on the shampoo and using mostly water to help him get used to it without using too much product. He's sooo good about adapting, so I have high hopes for introducing a bath. The first time is always a bit unsettling though. He's great with nail care and brushing now (better than any dog I've had in the past, which I never expected with a shiba).

    The bath mat and remembering to plan potty time so he won't be freezing outsideis super helpful, I wouldn't have thought of those. Maybe I'll add a bit of lavender oil, I've heard that can repel fleas / ticks, though I'm not that concerned about it right now; there will probably be snow on the ground for at least another month or 2 where I live.

    Thanks so much for the tips. I think I'll go for a light bath sometime this week. Definitely gonna pick up a bath mat so he has some traction. :)
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    Normally my girl doesn't smell badly, but after she plays with other dogs it is pretty noticeable, especially since she likes playing with the drooliest/stinkiest dogs she can find. So generally she gets a bath one to two times a month since we have training classes once a week, try to go to a dog park at least once a week, and also go on hikes a couple times a month.

    Since everything gets wet, I generally end up standing in our bath/shower with her between my legs and do a double scrub with some pet oatmeal shampoo we picked up from somewhere (hate the smell of it) and then with my personal moisturizing shampoo that makes her smell wonderful. Probably not kosher in dog-world, but she doesn't have skin issues and her fur is super soft and plush.

    @Lilikoi - from personal experience, I would say that rinsing with water isn't more drying. However, rinsing with just water won't be cutting into and removing any additional substances that cling to the fur.
  • LilikoiLilikoi
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    I did end up giving him a quick bath and he did great. I used just a bit of dog shampoo mostly on his underside, I barely even got his head wet haha. He's now delightfully soft and fluffy and smells so good. He didn't scream or whine at all, and even after bath time was done, he sat patiently while I dried him off and brushed him. He was a bit unsettled about the process but I introduced him to the tub slowly and let him have some treats while it was empty and stuff. As long as he gets lots of positivity, he's easy to pacify.
  • Ahri doesnt like water or rain but she doesnt fuss about it...she just sits there.
    Kiba loves being outside in the rain and getting wet, seems to not mind the bath...we're actually going to give them a bath today since they have gotten really muddy lately. In total we have only given them like 5 baths and they dont really smell dirty.

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