Rescuing: Some important clarifications
  • I have been reading some statements on this forum that concern me deeply, and I think it is important that it is addressed.

    Having worked nearly 20 years in dog rescue I really must express, BUYING a dog from a less than ethical breeder or pet store is in no way rescuing or helping the homeless dog issue. It is in fact one of the primary factors in CAUSING the homeless dog problem. Every time someone purchases a dog from a backyard breeder/pet store (any pet store)/or puppy mill it conveys to that business that there is a demand for their merchandise (I.E. puppies). They now have added incentive to continue producing more puppies.

    All the while millions of dogs are killed daily because suitable homes cannot be found; MILLIONS, more than 80% pure bred, many of them puppies (admin Pam "Ryu" adopted Roxy at 9 weeks old from a rescue group, my friend Mitch rescued a 9 week old shiba from another group, my Moto was 6 months old when I got him, they are out their for the patient).

    Now I have nothing against people getting dogs from responsible breeders. I do believe that there is a place for them in this world. A responsible breeder cares about the welfare of the breed, not just their dogs. They are trying to maintain the health and stability of the breed and are trying to keep it from going the way of so many other breeds (look at GSDs and their hips, or these mammoth labs with so many health and temperament issues). Most are active in rescue. A reputable breeder does not over breed their bitches, or breed hundreds of puppies. It is a labor of love.

    I also cannot tell anyone what to do for themselves. If you are unwilling to wait on a reputable breeders wait list, and are unwilling to pay a reputable breeders prices, and do not want to go to an actual rescue group and save a homeless dog or puppy, that is absolutely your right and your choice. But as someone who has had to make the list of dogs to get put down, not because they were sick, not because they had issues, but because there was no room at the shelter, please do not try to justify that you are saving a future homeless dog.

    The following links are excellent rescue groups that are always desperately looking for people who are willing to open their homes to a shiba in need.
    http://national.shibarescue.org/listings/
    http://www.shibarescue.org/
    http://nycshibarescue.org/
    http://www.savingshibas.com/
    http://www.shibas.org/rescue.html
    http://www.tristateshiba.org/
  • ljowen123ljowen123
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    well said!
    LJ - owned by Queen Jazz, a Shiba Inu, Atlanta, GA
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  • sailfloesailfloe
    Posts: 119
    Well said indeed. "Rescuing" a dog from an irresponsible breeder just means they can go on to create more dogs that need to be "rescued".
  • sjp051993sjp051993
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    I agree 100%. As a person who helps with rescue and has 2 rescue myself, some of these statements are frustrating.
  • SangmortSangmort
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    Hear hear!!!! ~
  • CaliaCalia
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    Great post Jessica!
  • Thanks for the links for the rescue groups. Hopefully people who are thinking of adopting a shiba or a 2nd shiba will check them out.
  • tjbart17tjbart17
    Posts: 437
    I'm going to add one more for those in California
    http://www.shibarescue.net/

    I have a rescued Kai right now that was accidentally mistaken for a Shiba, well not so much mistaked as there are no Kai rescues, and I got her from Red at the No. California Shiba Inu Rescue. He has I believe 6 foster Shibas right now looking for homes and dogs always coming in.
  • curlytailscurlytails
    Posts: 959
    Great post that needed to be said. My first dog/shiba came from an irresponsible breeder when I was young and naive and didn't know better -- never had anyone spell it out for me. We love him all the same, but now that I know better and have also put some time in with animal rescue groups, I know there is so much more to be said and done.

    I want to echo the sentiment about being patient. My partner and looked for over a year and a half (checking various listings just about every day) to find the second dog that we eventually did adopt. It's just as possible to spend more time or less time waiting for the "perfect" pet to come along through rescues/shelters. But if you truly love animals and keep your heart open, the right one WILL come along, and when it happens and everything seems to work out, it will be that much more magical and rewarding.
    Bowdu 寶肚 (Shiba) and Bowpi 寶媲 (Basenji) with M.C.
  • Other Shiba rescues:

    Northern Nevada Shiba Rescue, run by Jack Owens, email: my3shibas@gmail.com, web: http://www.myshibainu.com/

    Southern California, contact Michelle Balestrieri, mbalestrieri4@sbcglobal.net
  • For those in the Illinois/Wisconsin area, our two shiba puppies came from a rescue called Tiny Paws Small Dog Rescue http://www.petfinder.com/shelters/WI320.html in Union Grove, WI. They are on petfinder.com and get shiba puppies in every once in a while so just watch for them and be patient until the right dog(s) for you are posted and ready for your loving home!
  • Can we post this thread as a sticky please? I think that it would be useful and informative. Not only does it state in a clear, precise, and in my opinion, non-inflammatory way why so many object to non-ethical breeders, puppy mills, etc. but it's also a great resource for a number of good rescues across the country.
  • Great! This is really important, and well said. Good idea to make it a sticky!
    Lisa and Bel and Toby (Shibas) and Oskar (American Akita)
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  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    Great post Jess!
  • hanaluluhanalulu
    Posts: 150
    Another rescue: Colorado - http://shibascoutrescue.com
  • Uki-buttUki-butt
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    This is all good information but I still have a hard time with it... just my opinion
  • curlytailscurlytails
    Posts: 959
    Just wondering if we could re-organize the list to indicate which groups have designated 501(c)3 status, and which ones do not or are in the process of obtaining one. Such information could make this sticky more useful, especially when one would like to choose a group to send tax-deductible donations...
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    Bowdu 寶肚 (Shiba) and Bowpi 寶媲 (Basenji) with M.C.
  • JessicaRabbitJessicaRabbit
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    If someone is interested in doing the research by all means feel free. When I created this thread it was not created as a rescue resource but more an opportunity to clarify that BUYING a dog is not rescuing or adopting and calling it that is in poor taste.

    I personally don't gauge my monetary donations by their tax deductibility but by the work the organization does for the cause. If I can write it off I see that as a nice bonus.
  • JessicaRabbitJessicaRabbit
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    If someone is interested in doing the research by all means feel free. When I created this thread it was not created as a rescue resource but more an opportunity to clarify that BUYING a dog is not rescuing or adopting and calling it that is in poor taste.

    I personally don't gauge my monetary donations by their tax deductibility but by the work the organization does for the cause. If I can write it off I see that as a nice bonus.
  • curlytailscurlytails
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    Heh... At this point in my life, I hardly earn nor am able to donate enough where a tax deduction would benefit me very much. But having worked on the development side of a 501(c)e before, and seeing the flood of sizable donations that come in right before the end of the calendar year from folks asking them to be cashed immediately for proper tax credit, I know that it does matter to some people.

    I don't mean to hijack the thread or anything. It seemed that discussion was starting to move towards a listings of good rescue groups, and as this is the only sticky related to rescue, this seemed like a good place to add the information. I got to thinking about this when I was trying to figure out all the regional shiba-specific rescues and how they may (or may not) be related. For example, there's the "National Shiba Inu Rescue" resource online, of course, and they seem very comprehensive and great and well-networked with MSIR, but I was stumbling across all these other smaller groups in Central Florida, Colorado, the ones listed above, etc. that seemed to fall through their cracks. It just got confusing to me.

    Anyway, I would be interested in pulling together such a list/spreadsheet. Give me a few days, and I'll post my findings for feedback. I got something rough, but haven't posted it because it's not complete and keep getting sidetracked with other project... Please keep adding to the list here!
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    Bowdu 寶肚 (Shiba) and Bowpi 寶媲 (Basenji) with M.C.
  • JudyJudy
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    http://www.midatlanticshibarescue.org/rescue/index.php
    This is where I've been courtesy listing shibas ( & jindos) looking for a new home. Applications to adopt can also be filled out and Itry to match apps up with the shibas.

    There is also SIRRA: http://sirra.shibas.org/
    They help foster shibas who require vet care over and above the normal routine care. They helped me in the past with a foster who had to go through HW treatment.
  • For those is Canada there is rescue in Toronto
    http://www.shibarescuegta.com/
    Toronto was too far for me to go so I headed south and found my Shiba through Dogs Deserve Better and a Humane Society in Southern MN.
  • inubakainubaka
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    Last Chance Ranch in Quakertown PA pulls a lot of shibas
    http://www.petfinder.com/shelters/PA105.html

    and I didn't see this listed yet - the Shiba Rescue of Ocean County NJ (Toms River, NJ)
    http://www.petfinder.com/shelters/NJ477.html
  • SayaSaya
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    Just want to post saying new shiba inu owners or or soon to be shiba owners please read this sticky! It's important.
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  • LovingLolaLovingLola
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    In addition to the dedicated shiba rescue organizations, there are plenty of adoptable shibas in shelters. I adopted my Lola from the SPCA. I had to be patient, but I created a search for shiba inus on www.petfinder.com and would check every couple of days over the period of a few months before finding her. 6 months later - I know that she was the one that rescued me! I love my Lola!

    Petfinder is a great resource - you can tailor your search by breed, location, sex, size, color, age, house training, special needs, good with cats ect.
  • Many shelters/SPCAs maintain lists of people looking for a particular breed and will notify folks if the desired breed comes into the shelter. So if you're looking for a Shiba, contact your local shelters and leave your name with them!
  • zoezoezoezoe
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    Has anyone rescued through NYC Shiba Rescue?

    I've put in an application twice but never received a response. I realize they are busy with their personal lives and have many applications coming in but I never even received a response saying that I'm not eligible, etc.

    If I don't receive a response does that mean they don't approve of something on my application..?
  • sunyatasunyata
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    The adoption coordinators at NYCSR have been ridiculously busy lately. I am sure they would love to get with you, but sometimes things get lost in the shuffle. Give them a call when you get a chance and leave a voice message if no one answers with a call back number that you can be reached (such as a cell number, so you are not playing phone tag). Their number is (917) 591-3408.

    The girls at NYCSR are incredibly awesome. Several forum members have worked with them for various things (I have fostered and done transports for them).
    Bella 2Mountains 2Nola 2
    Casey, with Bella and Nola, hanging out in the mountains of Virginia.
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  • zoezoezoezoe
    Posts: 110
    Thanks Casey. They said the Adoptions Director would call me when they get to my application.... =/ I hope they get to me.
  • inubakainubaka
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    zoezoe - I'm not sure if you've heard anything yet... but when your application is received, they review all of it (could take a small amount of time - we're all volunteers!) and then they call your references. Depending on how long the references take to respond, they also call your vet reference.

    Then they put a call out to see if they have a volunteer to do a home visit. This also might take some time to find someone.

    Sometimes these things take time but hopefully they at least can communicate the process with you if you had questions in the meantime!
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  • zoezoezoezoe
    Posts: 110
    Thanks inubaka! The dog we wanted to adopt is actually getting adopted by his foster so =( However we were recently contacted about fostering instead. We have a volunteer coming in to do a home check this weekend... hopefully all goes well. I'm really looking forward to having a friend around for my girl.

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