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Probiotics/digestive enzymes
  • kwyldkwyld
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    For those of you who use probiotics in your dog's food, which companies do you like to purchase from and what kind do you use? I have purchased a diary based liquid formula from a health food store before. But there are powder formulas available too right? Does anyone just use plain yogurt instead?
  • brandon_wbrandon_w
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    I have used Prozyme in the past, but Nemo was always runny on that.  Others use it with good results.



    I also know people who use yogurt (usually organic) and their dogs do well on that.



    Acidophilus pills also work well, I just throw it in the kibble and Nemo eats it.



    Standard Process' Enteric System support is what I have Nemo on now, and I like it a lot.  He has been very healthy with it.



     


  • I have been using NaturVet. It is a powder that you sprinkle a 1/2 tsp per cup of food.




    I had dropped the ball on their probiotics for a few weeks and they almost instantly became flatulent. Once I switched to this brand the gas disappeared and their poop became very consistent. Never going back!

  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    We use PB8 - its a human grade powder capsule.



    We plan to switch an animal grade version once we are done with the PB8.

  • redcattooredcattoo
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    I have a question about pro-biotics. As many are aware I have been having off and on soft poo issues with Bear. Recently we slowly switched his diet from Wellness Core Ocean to a lower protein (25%) TOTW (lamb), we also on the suggestion of our vet did a 3 day panacur and a 7 day metro... (sorry can't remember the whole name), during this time we also had samples of Ark's Natural Gentle Digest from my pet food supplier that we used. It seemed something in this mix was working as his poo was firming up a bit.

    After our samples of Ark's Natural Gentle Digest ran out, we didn't give any pro-biotic to Bear on Wednesday. On Thursday we noticed his poo seemed to be softer again. Would coming off the pro-biotic have that quick of an effect?

    I plan now to purchase some Ark's Natural Gentle Digest and see if putting him back on it changes his poo to determine if that is one of the keys. If being put back on Ark's Natural Gentle Digest does make a difference ... is there any risk of using it as a daily supplement?

    Also if this does help, is it only fixing a symptom, and if so what could be the underlying cause that we really should be looking at when discussing the situation with the vet?
  • aykayk
    Posts: 121
    That's also my question about probiotics. I'm also in a similar position though I know for sure that I am fighting giardia in my yard and am re-starting another round of Panacur.

    I would do pumpkin/probiotics and sometimes I would get in one large dump half 'okay' poop and the later half 'bad' poop.

    Sometimes the mushy poop might be the start of EPI, but I had a dog tested and she was negative.
  • redcattooredcattoo
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    @ayk, so far his stool samples are negative, which is why I am going to try putting him back on Ark's Natural Gentle Digest to see what effect it has. If that doesn't refirm his stool than I will have to wonder if the panacur or metro... was helping. I am not yet convinced it is diet as we have kept the diet and treats pretty consistent these past 2 weeks, and we did get almost a week of consistent good poos, the only thing changing recently was ending the medicine and the pro-biotic.

    I am interested if one day off the pro-biotic would have had that quick of an effect on his poo. Also if there is risk using it as a daily supplement and if the pro-biotic seems to work if it is only masking an issue and that there could be underlying medical concerns I should look at.
    Post edited by redcattoo at 2012-12-07 15:57:39
  • Every time Riley is off Metro we go bad to soft poo. I have ordered a probiotic and will be trying that as soon as it arrives...hopefully....
  • redcattooredcattoo
    Posts: 1960
    Since I am out of the probiotic and it won't be delivered until mid-Sunday I used plain greek yogurt mixed with his food yesterday. This mornings poo has improved slightly over the prior day making me hope there is resolution from a probiotic.

    Will have to talk to the vet if the poo-probiotic link becomes more conclusive in my mind. I still wonder what the long term issues (if any) of a daily probiotic could be and if there is an underlying medical concern that could be resolved to reduce the need for a daily probiotic.
  • tatonkatatonka
    Posts: 1210
    Greek yogurt or cottage cheese. I mix this with kibble, torn pieces of raw or fish, and a tiny bit of salmon oil. This is Tatonka's meals when in doggie daycare. :p
    Monkey!
    Post edited by tatonka at 2012-12-08 11:22:24
  • MoishewMoishew
    Posts: 35
    @Tatonka - I also mix Masa's kibble with 1tbsp of greek yogurt. He actually had really bad gas from his normal kibble, but when I started mixing it w Greek yogurt, it went away almost immediately. I give him 1tbsp w morning kibble and 1 tbsp with evening. I also give him a baked potato (and I save the skins to make potato skins for myself :D ) once or twice a week. After I scoop the insides of the potato, I put in a little yogurt to kind of make it like mashed potatoes. If he's been a real good boy, I'll also throw in some home made jerky and he goes nuts for it.

    I find that yogurt also makes for a great ingredient when stuffing a kong (if you mix it w peanut butter stick a bone in it and then freeze it).

    I also ordered intelliflora from PSC pets, which is the same company that makes Musher's Secret paw protection. I haven't received it yet, but when I do I'll give an update for how it's working. His gut already seems pretty healthy, as he's going #2 at the same time daily and it's never soft or loose, but I figure it can't hurt.
    CH Arden Masa Fusa is his full and decorated name, but I call him Masa!
  • SayaSaya
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    I've done same as kong stuffing peanut butter and plain greek yogurt yummy.

    I'd usually put the kibble in the kong then top it off with the greek yogurt and peanut butter mix freeze it then give to the dogs.

    Yummy treat and takes a bit to get to the kibble for their meal..

    I don't give plain greek yogurt with every meals or every week I'm bad about getting it.

    Luckily Saya and Bella doesn't really have gas or loose poop issues.

    I sometimes get it especially if the brand I like is on sale I get a couple.

    I used it to make icing for the dog's birthday pupcakes.. Yogurt and peanutbutter all mixed together yummy.

    Cake had carrots in it crushed up. a dog's version of carrot cake. hehe

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    Nicole, 5year old Bella(Boxer), and 4year old Saya(Shiba inu)
  • B-naturals. Great products.
  • I always find that probiotics are a life saver. They help with digestion, indigestion, and as a buffer when you are giving other supplements. I use Animal Essentials powder for my cats because I can just scoop it into their wet food and mix it in good. For Kai I tend to use the Ark Naturals. They have the pills and the treats and Kai takes both. I cannot say enough about probiotics. They are a must for her because she had a UTI once and since we give her daily vitamin C to acidify her urine and balance out her pH. But sometimes vitamin C can cause the body to kill off the flora and fauna of the digestive tract, so the probiotics balance it all out.

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