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  • Michelle MMichelle M
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    It never ends.

    I've stopped buying ANYTHING from either Wal-Mart or items coming from China.

    BTW, this seems like a pretty good web site to stay tuned to for pet food recalls.

  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    Yea, I try not to buy anything from China anymore.

  • MommyofNikoMommyofNiko
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    Good Lawd
  • hondruhondru
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    And people think I'm crazy when I say I want to grow most of my own food and buy the rest from local farmers...
    -Heidi, with Rakka (shikoku) and Sosuke (kai ken)
  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    No that is not crazy at all, it's conscientious.

    BTW: Where ya been? Did you guys move into the new place yet? How is it?


  • hondruhondru
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    Thanks for saying it's not crazy.  Some people think it's cool,
    but like you once told me, there are always haters no matter what you
    do.  That's what I encounter with my lifestyle goals.

    I've been without phone or internet aaalllll month.  The few times
    I've been on have been when I was at my parents' house briefly when I
    come into town to run errands.  We just barely got our phone line
    yesterday because of a damaged line and our computer is now in the
    shop!  Actually, right now I'm in Portland, Oregon in the hotel
    lobby.  We're down for a wedding (Noah's the best man) and I
    wanted an internet fix.  New place is good, thanks for
    asking!  If you want to see pictures, you can check out

    BTW - sorry for hijacking the thread.Embarassed

    -Heidi, with Rakka (shikoku) and Sosuke (kai ken)
  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    Wow - I checked out your pics of the farm... you have a lot of space! Very cool! Do you plan to keep the Lama and Sheep? That one picture of Loki in the gravel pit makes him look like a wolf - kinda creepy - it’s cool.  :c)
  • what about raw, how safe in toronto? i don't know. here some people cook for their pets. sad, i am not a good cook. Frown
  • Michelle MMichelle M
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    If you don't want to make your dog's food (and I'm one of them), you can buy prepared raw food to save yourself some time and guesswork.

    I don't know what is available in Canada, but there are a couple good & trustyworthy companies around that have premade raw. Nature's Variety, The Honest Kitchen, Bravo, Primal, Aunt Jenni's, and Northwest Naturals are the ones I consistently see on other boards and rated well.

    I feed my two dogs a mix of Bravo and Honest Kitchen Embark (Embark is the one recommended for puppies and adults alike). I buy the Bravo without the veggies in it since Embark already contains plenty. To that, I add SeaPet w/vitamin E fish oil, a capsule of NOW brand 4x6 Probiotics (there are other good brands - I give the dogs what I take), and Flexicose for joint support.

    You can feed the mix above to your new pup (if you've decided). The only thing you won't want to do is feed a premade raw w/ bone in it IF you also feed kibble as the kibble already contains enough minerals in it. It is important to make sure a young pup has the proper calcium/phosphorus ratios for proper skeltal growth. Too much is bad. Improper ratios can cause leg and hip deformaties and joint problems later in life. If the pup is showing splay foot, it is usually a sign they've gotten an improper balance.

    Ronan has been eating premade raw since he was 9 wks old.

    Yeah, I spend far too much time on a dog message board that is mostly nutrition buffs.

  • hondruhondru
    Posts: 529

    You could also look into prey model raw. It's basically like
    regular raw, except the meat isn't and bones aren't ground up and they
    don't add any vegetables. It's obviously easier to prepare
    because most people who do raw grind everything up in a meat grinder
    first and puree the veggies. Some people are afraid of the dogs
    choking, but it's not something I'm worried about with my dogs.
    They've never had trouble chewing anything. I told Tojo's trainer
    once that Tojo liked to eat whole trouts and she said, "Oh, so you have
    a meat grinder?" and I said, "No." She looked really confused and
    asked, "Who grinds them up for you, then?" and I just said, "Tojo
    does. He's got a whole mouthfull of teeth."

    As far as
    skipping the veggies, I'm personally undecided. I think a dog
    eating just raw meat is a lot better off than a dog eating a poor
    quality kibble, but whether the vegetable matter benefits them isn't


    Brad, yes we're keeping them!  They've been on their own for at
    least two years, so they're easy keepers (although in desperate need a
    shearing, which will have to wait for next year). 

    -Heidi, with Rakka (shikoku) and Sosuke (kai ken)
    Post edited by hondru at 2007-08-24 22:39:46
  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    We had our dogs on a prey model type feeding before we added Ahi to the mix - Maui and Kaia were on that type of diet for about 2 years with GREAT results. We would just give whole turkey legs, chicken legs, half a duck, hen, fish, and lamb ribs - bone and all (with supplements). They eat it right up w/ no issues.

    Now we give more of a mix of pre-made raw, ground raw, recreational bones and grain-free kibble with supplements. Eventually we will move to a prey model once all the pups are to an age we don't have to worry about there teeth breaking and what not.

    Heidi - That's cool you will keep them. Do you not have to worry about wolves in that area, I know around glacier park there are a few roaming packs. Maybe you will need to get as LGD - like a Great Pyrenees or something. Ha!  Wink

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