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Dog park people -_-
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  • Post edited by curlytails at 2014-02-25 23:57:01
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    Post edited by Kira_Kira at 2014-02-26 00:06:43
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  • poltergeistpoltergeist
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  • Poltergeist, I am working on a new trick with banjo where he "shows teeth"; the command is "fight". He has ZERO aggression issues towards any people, so its more for me to look like I have an attack dog than anything. I suggest trying it out so next time someone calls your dog stupid and you say fight and he looks angry, they'll be scared. Yes it's mean. Yes, It's funny (especially when I showed my friend who walks banjo every day and was there when I got him. Him and banjo are BFF's but when I showed him this trick he actually thought my dog would bite him). I am super careful about it not being overused or bringing out aggression in him. Ive seen plenty of dogs learn "smile"...i Just changed the word to be more "hostile sounding" to humans.

  • NASANASA
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    Lmbo !! I don't have those problems , at least not to my face! But it sure sounds funny
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    Post edited by Rikka at 2014-03-03 12:22:29
  • curlytailscurlytails
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  • poltergeistpoltergeist
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  • i know a lot of people who teach their dog to smile. I just use the word fight, not smile. He doesn't tighten up or anything. jeez. he is is sitting peacefully, but smiling.

    It's akin to using the word "attack" to teach sit.
    Post edited by BanjoTheBetaDog at 2014-03-03 20:47:56
  • Kira_KiraKira_Kira
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  • AWE46M3AWE46M3
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    People who bring treats and give them to their dog - in front of a bunch of other dogs - then get upset because they now have dogs following them and jumping up on them makes me scratch my head. You have treats at a dog park and you're surprised by having dogs all over you? Really?
  • Kira, its only because I told my friend (who is quite gullible) that in the three days he hasn't seen banjo, I taught him how to attack on command (I turned a sweet lovable puppy into an attack dog in three days? he really should have known better since he literally spends an hour a day with him). He kept going "seriously?" and I kept going "yeah look".

    To me there are "obedience tricks" which serve a purpose (heel, leave it, sit, stay, come etc) and "performance tricks" (paw, "bang" (play dead), roll over, smile). The performance tricks are to keep his mind sharp and "show off" for guests. I really find them quite useless except that learning is healthy for him so I have to teach him new things. Don't worry, its not as irresponsible as it sounds. I've never asked him to "perform" anywhere but at home.

  • NASANASA
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  • Yeah, its not a response to being teased. Someone teased him on a walk the other day, and I looked at this woman and said, "If my dog bit your face and attacked you for that, I wouldn't feel bad. You should be less of a cu** to strange animals". Her husband, not thrilled with my choice of words, was about to fight me. (He stood no chance, he was half my size and I am pretty capable of handling myself, even with one hand on the leash). My dog is more patient than I am. (she was running up behind him and growling. He would run a few feet up and turn around like "wtf?". After the third time, I chose the words I chose).

    Again, since I don't use "performance" tricks anywhere outside the home, I am not worried (same with paw. In dog world, the one paw up can be an invite to play. I don't want another dog to see that and think my dog is inviting him and sprint over so we just don't perform anywhere but home).

    I see what you are saying about it being taken the wrong way, but I wouldn't put him in that position.





  • sunyatasunyata
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  • Oh Sunyata, how I love your condescension. You may not think I am astute, but given I spent my whole life wrestling (20+ years ), boxing 4x a week for the past 5 years and enough street fights to last a lifetime (plus MMA instruction 3 days a week), I know how to size someone up and REALLY know when I am in the company of someone who is tough vs isn't tough. SO tell me how I am so obviously not astute as to be able to know my odds in a fight before it starts? Oh, that's right, you are from the "one size fits all" mentality of life.

    Since you are happy to call me a jackass, let me fill you in.... 1) every time she did it, I turned around, gave her a dirty look and proceeded to tell banjo not to worry and ignore it. 2) it was a straight path with no means of egress left or right. Couldn't escape the situation without turning around and directly confronting them. Which when I did, she said "what's your problem"... to which I responded how I did.

    Yes, it is better, I am pretty tired of people thinking that being nice all the time is the way to solve problems. It doesn't and unfortunately there was no other way around it. If I turned and walked the other way we would have been face to face... a MUCH more dangerous situation.

    When that guy wanted to fight me we were about ten feet apart and he couldn't come closer to hit me or the dog.

    I don't know where you get off talking down to me every chance you get, but get over yourself. You have spent exactly ZERO time in anyone elses shoes. I am simply going to not use this forum anymore because if I want to be talked down to by a complete stranger, I'll start posting political rants on facebook.

    Good luck with your dog.


  • Just to go back to the original topic for a moment:
    - The guy who brings his bitch in heat without the doggy diaper required as posted and allows random males to hump her
    - The person who asks you and your friend awkward questions (i.e. are you guys lesbians? (my friend is a guy))
    _ The person who yells at you because their dog wants to sit at your feet because you gave them the "down" command when they jumped up on you (Not sure why I got yelled at, but I am not a fan of being jumped on by strange dogs)
    - The person who offers treats to your dog when they themselves do not have a dog

    These have all happened to me and my friend when we take his Husky to the dog park to get some of her uncontrolled energy out.
  • NASANASA
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    :-t I may get back lash for this but @sunyata - this entire thread in my opinion about "Dog park people" is a little negative. You cant single this guy out for the way he chose to handle his situation. Even your advice to him could be deem wrong. Just like we preach negative or positive reactions, to something bad our dogs do is incorrect, so is any reaction to a person who is doing something wrong. He really should WALK AWAY, no words spoken at all.

    He sounds like me, I cant say something without it being sarcastic or snide. So I have learned to SAY NOTHING and walk away or avoid. He chose to engage and put the guy in his place. Maybe it is the best thing or maybe it isn't.
    but this entire thread is primarily dedicated to bashing "dog park people", of which I am one of those dog park people, I just laugh at it and take no offense.

    To other it could be a little offensive, maybe we should criticize the creator of the thread. I'm sure we would have if it was called, "Gay dog lovers -_- " .

    Or we just let @Banjothebetadog share his experience without being ripped apart, and Ignore his comments without calling him names.

    PS- I mean to attack or offend no one.

    Now back to talking about the people who visit the dog park! =))
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    Lol @ kira number 2 ... Especially in Florida
  • Hey everyone! Just took Haku to the dog park for the first time this weekend and he had a ball! Met lots of nice dogs and their owners, who were very attentive. Haku, a creamie, came back exhausted and brown from rolling around with a golden retriever who had been swimming in the pond right before playing with Haku.

    My boyfriend, however, took him yesterday and while Haku had no issues, he told me about this lady who went with her young dog and proceeded to berate everyone on their dogs' faults and shortcomings, saying things like "You can tell that dog is aggressive- he must be part pitbull."

    She even went so far as to grab another person's dog by the collar and push its face into the ground when it nipped at the air around her dog, saying no dog would be aggressive with hers! She also never took her dog's leash off.

    Just hearing about it made me furious, and I think I would have lost my cool if she'd messed with my Haku.
  • @NASA, my friend's dog is on a very controlled diet to limit her begging for snacks from outside people, so we kindly declined and said no. I have seen many articles of people preparing meat balls and hiding them around normal dog walk areas so dogs could find them and be poisoned.
    Post edited by Candywolf357 at 2014-03-05 16:26:06
  • BootzBootz
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    @BanjoTheBetaDog @NASA not sure how this got ugly. But I can see it from both sides. I'm more like @sunyata and think we should be calm in the way we handle things as things can quickly turn ugly. But at the same time my husband is like @BanjoTheBetaDog in the way that, he would quickly take offensive to people and would take necessary measures if needed.

    Anyways, as @Candywolf357 mentioned, i'm actually from the bay area, so this affects me. This is the #1 reason why I always stress how important it is for owners to teach their dog the leave it command and also to just ignore stuff on the road.

    The culprit is clever and have been leaving the meatballs in bushes as well. Which of course owners can't see, and can't enforce the "leave it" command. Hence why I stress the teaching your dog to ignore food on the road.
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    I’m going to chime in on this thread. I live in a large gated apartment complex 600+ units, and there is a dog park within our complex. The property management has no size restriction for dogs so everyone and their grandmother have a dog, or some sort of pet.

    I am one of the regulars that use the dog park, and yeah I ran into some (not all) stupid people. Meet many great neighbors, and make some great friends too. We have a large gathering in the afternoon just before sunset at the dog park every afternoon. Great for me since the other dogs tire out my Shiba a lot easier than me just walking him.

    Granted it’s not a public dog park, and I’m assuming most of the people that use it live in the complex, but I suspect some of our outside neighbors sneak in to use one of the 4 spas/pools, or the outdoor exercise stations we have all over the place, and plenty of free doggy poo bags stations everywhere.
    Will any who, my rants of dog park people. Keep in mind this is not the norm. All if not most of the time Ratchet and I have a pleasant time going out or to the dog park. I am also ex-ARMY 11B from age 17 to 22, so not much scares me.

    A jackass that had an aggressive Doberman pincher off lease that bit another person before, then me. I am sure that dog was put down. In my area you gets one warning, first bite, you have to quarantine your dog for 10 days, second offence the dog is taken to a “shelter.” That person was evicted out of our complex shortly after the incident.

    -A new tenant, some women that have no control of two large dogs was dragged over by a lab and a bulldog, as she was screaming, “I don’t have control of these guys.” She still came in with her two dogs even when all the dogs where barking at each other through the fence. They, the two big dogs began to bully and pack on the small dogs. She then made a comment “Your dogs are small why don’t you just pick them up”. Oh, that got me pissed. I kicked her labs when I saw some fur fly when it engaged with Ratchet (although it was January, and may have been because Ratchet was getting ready to blowing his under coat.) I then picked up Ratchet walked out of the dog park, cursed the lady out, pulled out my pocket knife, and said if they get in a fight again I’m going to stab it you F*in Bitch. I found out later the other regulars that was there (especial this one old retired ex Air Force Captain) also cursed her out, and kicked them out for having aggressive dogs or something. I see them on walks, but they stay/walk the other why when they see us, and I have yet to see them in the dog park again. Lol

    -I do not just barge into the dog park when I see new people or dogs in there. I always walk up and ask if they are friendly. I have run into three different dog owners that said their dog gets along great with people just not other dogs. I will just say okay, thanks for the warning, and we go off on a walk around the complex since it is so big, and the landscapers keep the place looking like a park, it’s nice. It’s funny the retired Air Force Captain will curse them out, and kick them out by tell them you can’t have an aggressive dog off lease and they need to leave. He is a big, tall, old, cursing, black man, so I am sure the white girls run off simply out of fear, maybe. He does have a point, it is unfair for someone to bogard the dog park for himself or herself.

    -I ran into an old, bitter, negative devoiced woman that use to show up at the dog park with her, but is there to socialize, and bitch about how bad their day is or complain her ex-husband. Too much information sometimes, hahaha. Not there to socialize there dog, just there to hang out. She has moved since then.

    -The dog park is close to the children playground too so every now and then we will get a kid or two come in or stand along the fence line to pet the dogs. I am fine with the kids and Ratchet loves the attention, I just warn them not to feed them anything. One time these two little boys started showing up in the afternoon when we would gather for about 3 days straight. We did not have any problems with them. They were being respectful to the dogs and us. Then on the third day a car rolled up stopped, rolled down the windows and it was the boys’ mother. They were yelled at, I see them ride they bikes and say hello but have not come into the dog park since. Mom must not be a dog person.

    -People who bring in there puppy before they are vaccinated. Once, a teenager walked in with a little pup, and said his puppy was only 4 weeks old? I have yet to see any of them return and I only saw them twice in that one week. I am getting better at recognizing a small dog from a puppy, and one of the other regulars is very good and explaining vaccination since our environment has a large dog population.

    -People that had puppies during the Christmas session or was a gift, and then the dog just suddenly disappears. Usually within 6 months in.

    @BanjoTheBetaDog relax bro. If you post anything on a forum you will get feedback on any comment you make regardless if it’s a negative or good. I’m sure you had an ex try to control and tell you what to do. If you feel your being talked down to, so what, like anything else you can either accept or ignore their input. It’s not as if you’re married to Sunyata.
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    Shibamistress, I am raised in an old school traditional Chinese family, and I am an ex-ARMY infantryman (11B). So for the longest time, even though I knew I was that way, it did not click in my head until I hit my late twenties “How the F* did I become/get myself into this, and think it’s OK.” No, violence against anyone is wrong, but I will hold my own if pulled into a fight.

    I did not threaten to stab someone, I threatened to stab the 80+ pound Lab after observing her and her dogs. If I saw Ratchet bleed I defiantly would of attacked her dog. If you were there, and saw how the lab was ruffing up the other dogs, and making them yelp then the dog being bullied running back to their prospective owner, then here her say “Your dogs are small why don’t you just pick them up.” Will, I guess it is just me.

    -another one: people that do not pick up their dogs poop. It’s now routine for us (me and the other regulars) to get the scooper, and walk the park, and pick up what we can see, as the first thing to do when going to the dog park.
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    I was at the dog park a while ago (before it turned into a ridiculously cold winter...) with Bela. Bela likes other dogs, but she LOVES people, so she tends to say hi to absolutely every single person she runs into in the dog park.

    Well, a younger guy was there with his fairly young dog; the puppy couldn't have been over 8-9 months old. Bela walks up to the man to say hi, and he pets her. Next thing you know, his puppy walks over to him and pees on his leg. Yes, I giggled, who wouldn't!

    Well obviously he was not happy about having been peed on, so he proceeds to alpha roll his dog. Not giggling anymore! Ugh.
  • This thread needs a bump since the original topic was quite humorous, also our trip to the dog park with my friends husky warranted more funnies. Also! I saw such a tiny shiba yesterday they said he was 13lb at 1yo he was a cutie, but was obsessively marking EVERYTHING, this is why I'm a firm believer in spay/neuter, the obsessive markers drive me nuts. Anywho:
    - the person who thinks they are a professional photographer and takes pic of EVERYONE'S dog(s) and when you ask to see the pic they say you can buy them off her site.
    - the person who has the two antisocial dogs on the otherwise of the fence who is obviously there for a breed specific meet up (white shepherds) and anytime a dog goes near the dense the dogs attack at the fence, they proceed to bein in their obviously aggressive dogs, who snap at everyone's dogs that come near them for a hello.
    - the person with the husky that wants to swim in the water dish (us)
    -the kid (teenager) squeamish of his own dogs poop
    - the person who carries Their dog around the park and doesn't let them play wig the other dogs (it was a full grown yappy toy breed)
    This was our day at the doggy park yesterday, hope everyone is enjoying St. Patrick's Day!
  • Sadly, the park is no longer empty so i've learned the need to navigate these people.

    There are two in particular (a mother daughter) who I cannot seem to explain things to.

    They have 2 chows. One is a gentle giant and usually runs for 10 minutes then hangs out. Its not exactly dangerous and I kind of like him even if he does get fur everywhere.

    The other is a nutcase who nips at EVERYTHING and other dogs make it clear to get away. Yet this woman brings BOTH dogs and the crazy chow is ALWAYS causing an issue.

    Her daughter (12 or 13) is committed to throwing toys out there no matter how many times (and how nicely) I try to ask her not to. It results in chase turned barking, etc.

    I don't know if there was a question here, but it felt good to complain.



  • sunyatasunyata
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  • Yeah, I've asked the girl nicely not to introduce a toy and her response is "but look how much fun they are having".... I want to explain its not fun but the pre-cursor to a fight. SHe is insistent on doing what she wants and even her mom has no control (reason number 8976787 I am happy i don't have a teenager.). Sadly we are on the same schedule (after work). There is another dog park which is ALWAYS empty but is made of a weird dirt compound. The one we go to is astroturf so it is cleaner.

  • Any tips on explaining to people that they have no place in a dog park?

    We went on Sunday and when we got there it was just Banjo and me. I took out a ball and we played. A few minutes later, a couple came in with a friendly mutt and their kid. I put the ball away, and as soon as they entered the gates, I noticed the kid and told the parents my guy is friendly but jumps on kids, and before the parents could speak the kid (all of 6) says "It's ok, I am a dog person". Sure enough he was. Him and Banjo got along great and the other dog was totally not protective of the kid around Banjo. The kid really did his homework as as soon as banjo jumped on him, he said no, turned away and 10 seconds later turned back. After 3-4 of this, banjo got the message. That kid will be a good pet owner for sure.

    A few minutes later more dogs came in and it was chaotic but manageable as the dogs sorted themselves out. At this point there were a total of 5 dogs in the park, and the kid was even pointing out which dogs looked happy and which wanted to leave.

    Now for the part that I am still thinking about... this woman all jolly comes in with two dogs. A retriever of some type and a small little what looked like a mini-pitbull. As soon as she walks in, she throws a ball and all of the dogs go chasing after it. Growling ensues. Banjo (as he is prone to do) wins the toy and i get it from him. I then have 5 dogs jumping and nipping at my hands while I go give it back to the woman. I calmly said "you shouldn't throw a ball in a park, all of the dogs will fight over it" She laughs and says "oh, its ok" and THROWS IT AGAIN. Banjo goes to try to greet her mini-pit and the dog was frozen stiff and growling and tried to snip at banjo and the other dogs. They formed a circle around it, and it looked terrified and ready to attack.

    I called Banjo to me and this woman was completely oblivious. Not even paying attention to the chaos she is causing. We then left. Immediately.

    How in god's name do you address this with a person who has no idea what they are doing?

    @Sunyata, I took your advice and no longer go to that park around teh time of the chows. If we drive past and they are there, I keep driving and get Banjo's... "Wtf face"

    Post edited by BanjoTheBetaDog at 2014-06-10 13:08:04
  • zandramezandrame
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    @BanjoTheBetaDog, I think you did the best you can do. You proactively informed other owners of Banjo's habits and confronted the ball-thrower peacefully. I suppose you could confiscate the ball, but that might also lead to conflict with the woman. Without escalating, which I'm sure the dogs would sense, leaving the park was the best option.

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