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Does shiba 500 affect dog's joints?
  • EthosEthos
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    A good breeder avoids breeding a dog that does the shiba 500 run because it affects their hips and knees joints and is a predisposing factor to get joint displasias when the dog gets older.
    Is that a right statement? Should i try to discourage my dog from running around the house when doing the shiba 500? Is it bad to their bone/joint health? Or is that a myth?
  • redcattooredcattoo
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    Interesting question that I can't answer, but I would be interested in how to prevent/discourage the Shiba 500 run once it starts. My Bear is a master of it.
  • sunyatasunyata
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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  • SayaSaya
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  • EthosEthos
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    A breeder I met told me that, And i got surprised. Thanks for the reassurance.
  • SayaSaya
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  • tatonkatatonka
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  • EthosEthos
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    oh wow.. poor shiba.. Akuma did a shiba 500 outdoors once and he was leashed so I controlled him quickly and took him home to finish his 500.
  • jelliesjellies
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    there is a gene that causes dogs to run in circles continuously (a name for this condition I forget, spinning?), and it should be specifically bred out because their joints wear out in a matter of years, but the shiba 500s are no way anything to do with that if a dog can't zoom around a dozen or two laps in a day what kind of dog is it!
    Post edited by jellies at 2012-10-22 21:04:14
  • tatonkatatonka
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  • BootzBootz
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    Lol really bad joke!

    Bootz never does the Shiba 500 in public, thats a side of her she doesn't want other dogs to see ;) only for family's eyes!
  • redcattooredcattoo
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    What an article and what a reminder why a Shiba is very very very hard in almost all cases to be trusted off leash.

    Funny how most owners know that off leash is not ever recommended for a Shiba even going into ownership, yet all end up wanting to believe their case will be different. They end up in their own mind justifying letting their Shiba off leash in an uncontrolled situation. As this owner justified .... "She said she only was letting her dogs run free because they had done so before responsibly. They were deep inland as well, Cullum said, about two miles from the nearest cliffs."

    Sounds reasonable right? Well now who suffers for this? It will be the poor Shiba who could have her leg amputated.
  • micomico
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    I wish Suki wasn't so fast or I'd be able to video her doing her Shiba 500 chasing and being chased by 3 labradors, 2 boxers a dalmation and a labradoodle when they have their nightly run across the local farmer's fields.

    Maybe we're lucky where we live but I disagree with the belief that shibas can't be trusted off leash, we started training Suki at 8 wks and she's let off at every opportunity along with 80% of the dogs where we regularly walk her. If another dog is on leash we call her back and put her back on until they've passed.
  • JuniJuni
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    I also know of quite a few people that can and do have their Shibas off leash. Juni's prey drive is way too big at the moment. Yes, I have a far fetched idea it might slow down at some point. When she is around 10 or 12 maybe...
  • BootzBootz
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    Since that shiba 500 article is posted here I just wanted post that unfortunately last week at fort funston (off Leash dog park that's not gated) a big dog ran off the cliff. The dog survived but I was not informed of his condition. We must be careful with our fur babies!

    Yes shibas off leash is not impossible BUT
    If you're not 100% comfortable with your dog off leash please don't let them off leash!

  • I think a shiba 500 affects a dog's joints, everything does, even walking :p Agree with lindsayt that breeding better knees would be the best solution (and if the breeder has a known knee problem in her stock - find another breeder).

    (And I wanted to comment on the off-leash topic, because this seems to be a two-topic thread): I don't trust my dog off leash, not for one second. I know he does the "waaaaait" and also the "come back" commands, but in my head the moment I start trusting him is the moment something goes wrong. So he is offleash when we're in the mountains, but because of my distrust I've always (knock on wood) been the first to discover deers, dogs, etc. and have been able to call him in.

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